Hopefully an non-emotional discussion about switching from DTV to DISH

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by rakstr, Aug 22, 2014.

  1. harsh

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    The archiving process happens entirely in the background and doesn't require a reboot so it isn't particularly beneficial to consume extra resources to hurry the process. There's also a limit to how fast the DVR can encrypt the content as part of the transfer and to be able to outrun that process is obviously pointless.
     
  2. sregener

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    Perhaps the biggest feature missing from the Dish DVRs is the ability to save your place in a recording while the recording is still taking place.

    So, for instance, you start watching a movie while it is recording, decide to stop and hit the stop button. When you return, the "Resume" option is not available - you must start viewing from the beginning.

    If you stop viewing a recording after it has finished, your place in the program is saved.

    However, the speed of the Dish DVRs more than makes up for this annoyance. My Hopper was blazing fast from the get-go. My HR22-100 from DirecTV was never fast, and I actually left the provider over the speed of that box.
     
  3. lgb0250

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    I'm a little confused by this statement. I am currently taping an LPGA event. I just went to live TV. Waited a couple of minutes and went back to the DVR and hit resume. It took me right back to where I was previously even though the event is still being recorded!
     
  4. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Gold Club DBSTalk Club

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    Perhaps it has been fixed? Are you using PIP and the swap button to go to live TV?

    I have not tried lately, but I have seen the "paused live program forgets its paused point after recording finished" bug. The times I remember seeing it the most is if I did not return to the program until after the recording ending. So the steps to test would be:
    1) Record a program
    2) Watch part of that program while recording
    3) Pause the viewing - Watch other programming
    4) Wait until recording ends
    5) Return to previously paused program. Is the pause point there?
     
  5. acostapimps

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    It always resumed while recording, unless you're watching from a different DVR at the same time, Then yes it takes you to beginning of program on other receivers playlist, but if you stop the recording first, then it can resumed on other DVR's through Whole Home Service(MRV).
     
  6. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Gold Club DBSTalk Club

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    I hit record then a couple of minutes later hit pause on a program at 1pm on Sunday. I changed to another channel leaving the paused program recording in the background. In the evening I returned to the paused program (recording completed at 2pm) and was offered the chance to resume from the point where I paused. I'd say that is "working" as expected.
     
  7. rakstr

    rakstr Legend

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    Well I just pulled the plug on DTV after 18.5 years. I must say, I was a bit taken back because the retention rep confirmed I am month to month, determined my paid through date, calmly scheduled the shut off for that expiration date (end of this cycle), told me about the return process, and asked me if there was anything else :) Now on to other things!!!!!!
     
  8. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    Hmmmm. Interesting! So he/she did not bend your ear on all kinds of inducements to stay!? I've read complaints on that, but this is the first one (not saying you're complaining) where it's been short and bittersweet.

    Leaving for cost savings? Different equipment? Pac-12 fan? Just ready for a change? (Iffin ya don't mind me axing.)
     
  9. rakstr

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    Actually a BIG 10 fan (see avatar) and it is a financial decision. I really am happy with everything but having to pay full retail when I can get very similar programming from DISH for much less.

    I may even try a few months without anything just to see what OTA only is like again. We get quite a few! I'll probably miss Fox Business the most of anything if I do :)

    Anyone know if DISH DVRs have a network based remote on Android and IOS? I like that feature of DTV and use it. I've got HDMI distribution set up in my home to all the bedrooms and other places :) My disti system support IR repeaters but the network based is so much cleaner !!
     
  10. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    Most likely! And someone who's real familiar with Dish should be along shortly...

    And best wishes to you and your favorite teams!
     
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  11. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    The onslaught of winback offers is coming.
     
  12. bobukcat

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    I don't know about iOS but the Dish Anywhere application on Android cannot be used like a remote and it seems like such a glaring omission that I'm shocked it hasn't been added. The app does allow you to set recordings and manage the DVR to some extent but it appears that it is more geared for use as remote viewing platform for Sling enabled receivers.

    And welcome to the Dish family, I hope you enjoy it!
     
  13. harsh

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    What remote app for an iOS or Android device that you've seen is easier to use and works better than a physical DISH remote?
     
  14. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    Apparently, none!

    Too often..............
     
  15. rakstr

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    Don't mean to hijack your question but I think I have some input since the original response was for one of my questions.

    I've got HDMI distribution in the house to various rooms, all fed off a DVR I've allocated for that purpose. Before the remote was integrated into the IOS app for DirecTV, I had one of the cheapo Android tablets in each room with DirecTV Remote+ Pro loaded to control the common DVR via my local intranet from any location. Worked out well because the way I divided the rooms up, there was low probability of more than one user at any given time. The remote they finally included in the IOS app (and presume android but the new version won't run on my old tablets) does the same thing via my intranet, though I still prefer the DirecTV Remote+ Pro app.

    There are other benefits of the network remote function on DTV in that you can access some of the program information via the app and not on-screen. It's just a nice interface and simplifies multi-room with exceptional reliability.
     
  16. jsk

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    If you are thinking of trying cord cutting, it might be worth buying a Roku. It has lots of channels that are free, you just have to find them.

    Also, that might give DirecTV time to give you all sorts of counter offers and you can see what kinds of extra offers Dish will give to you.
     
  17. mattyhoops

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    3 months ago I switched from Directv to Dish.

    Directv:
    - Customer for almost 3 years
    - Had 1 Genie (HR34) DVR and 1 HD Receiver (H25 I believe)
    - 5 tuners were great. No recording conflicts
    - HR34 was slow but overall DVR was superior to standard Comcast DVR I had previously
    - Reception quality exceeded my expectations. Only lost service briefly during bad thunderstorms & when snow accumulated on dish.
    - Picture quality on HD content was spectacular.
    - Reason for leaving: Freezing/pixelation issue on recordings of local channels & live broadcasts. Put up with it for over a year. Directv wouldn't acknowledge there was a problem with Genie DVRs. They would only send me another one that would eventually have the same problem. When I cancelled service they were offering me all kinds of things to stay, but by then it was too late. Dish had already been installed.

    Dish:
    - 1 Hopper DVR, 1 Joey receiver
    - Only 3 true tuners. So far no big issues with recording conflicts. Since locals (ABC, CBS, FOX & NBC) always come through on 1 tuner it's like having 6 tuners as long as you record a lot on locals.
    - DVR functionality is similar to Genie but is displayed differently. Even uses different terminology, ex: Timers. Once you get used to it it does about the same thing as Genie. Hopper is a lot faster, but I had the old Genie. Does show more details: file size of recordings, view activity on all tuners, Season & episode # of series. You can also create folders to group recordings. I like that episodes of a program can be sorted by episode number even when recorded out of sequence.
    - HDD is twice the size of Genie. With free movie channels for 3 months I have 50+ movies and with my 'normal' DVR content I'm only at 46% capacity. I think it's around 250 individual recordings.
    - Ability to connect multiple HDDs and archive content is awesome. Haven't used the feature yet, but in past years I have lost so many recordings due to failed DVRs
    - reception seems to be on par with DTV. Only dropped out briefly during bad storms.
    - HD picture quality is not as sharp as DTV. Especially on locals. I wonder if it has anything to do with ABC, CBS, FOX & NBC coming through on 1 tuner.
    - Not as much on Demand content as DTV, but Comcast has both of them beat on that.
    - Remote is way too busy with too many small buttons. Can't find what you want in the dark. But I use a Logitech Harmony remote anyway. Only use Dish remote in bedroom.
    - BEST THING: Not 1 problem with recordings!! A DVR can have all kinds of bells & whistles, but it must be able to record what you want when you want it! (Barring reception issues)
     
  18. SomeRandomIdiot

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    1) Reception should be better than DTV, not on par. DirecTV's Ka signal is 3x more likely to have a rainfade issue.

    2) PQ is worse on Dish because it is HD-LITE (1440 lines instead of 1920 lines) and more bitstarved.

    3) DTV now has Season/Episodes

    4) Issues with Genies continue for freezing etc. They really are a POS.

    It is interesting because during the MPEG2 days of HD (even SD), DirecTV's signal was rock solid and error free while Dish's always had issues. Have to think a large part of it is the Genie's are causing it as the HR-2x were never this bad.
     
  19. Laxguy

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    My experience contradicts point 4). The Genies I have used have been fine.

    And I suspect any signal issues have more to do with packing more into each transponder.
     
  20. Sgtsbabygirl1

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    I don't know anything about dish. Why would you need that many accounts? are you paying for services on each account? IE if each account is 50 a mo youre paying 150? Do the hoppers and joeys share if they are on separate accounts?
     

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