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Hopper External Hard Drive

Discussion in 'Hopper System Support Forum' started by HD IS MY LIFE, Mar 15, 2012.

  1. May 7, 2012 #121 of 148
    JeffN9

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    I'm glad to see that the Hopper can handle more than one EHD at a time, initial reports said no. I'm not glad to see that I might have the same issues that I have had with my 922 since day 1. Since the Hopper apparently was built on the same platform as the 922 I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

    Occasionally my 922 does not see the two WD EHD's I have connected. A front panel reboot usually fixes the problem but it's a hassle waiting. One of the drives has WD Smartware the 2nd doesn't so turning off the power save feature (spin down) doesn't seem like it would make any difference, at least in my situation.

    I do have to say that it's much more stable now. Early on I would lose connection every 3-4 weeks. Now it's more like 3-4 months.
     
  2. May 9, 2012 #122 of 148
    chriscpmtmp

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    I put my power meter on one of my drives. When it spins up it takes 12w or so, then settles into 6w. When actively reading, it goes to 8w or so. Then after a while is drops to 1w. In the 1w mode its not spinning, so the Hopper needs to wait for a spin up, but the Hopper continues to see the drive. After a few days the Hopper lost it again. When I checked the meter, it was in the 6w mode.

    Very weird. I expected it to be zero and completely shut off. So the Hopper is probably sending some weird command. This is just a basic WD essentials drive. I have a few of them.
     
  3. James Long

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    Dumb question ... I finally connected my 622 EHD to my Hopper and I can see the content and transfer it to the Hopper hard drive - but ...

    I don't see how to play it without transferring it to the Hopper drive.
    Does this "Either the Hopper or the Joey can PLAY the EHD content" apply only to content that has been transferred to the Hopper?
     
  4. chriscpmtmp

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    Either the Hopper or Joey should play content from the EHD or the internal Hopper drive. The interface is the same to start playing either.

    I did have the hopper corrupt some of my recording in the transfer. For those, after I hit play, I just get a blank screen. I think I did copies that were too big - like 6 hours straight.

     
  5. James Long

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    On the 622 I had a "Media" folder that allowed me to see the content on the connected drive (kind of like the Prime Time Anytime folder under "My Recordings"). I don't see anything like that on the Hopper or Joey. :confused:

    I can see the content under "recordings transfer" but can't see a way of watching it without transfer.
     
  6. James Long

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    Ah ... there it is! The box at the top where I can see the content on the other Hopper. For some reason it was not showing the EHDs (and now it is).
     
  7. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    I assumed it would have something similar to the way the 922 does it... The 922 added a drop-down in the "My Recordings" area if you have an EHD connected so that you can select from the DVR internal drive and connected EHDs.

    I haven't seen the Hopper/Joey interface to know if they implemented it the same way, but since they appear to have started with 922 code it would make sense.
     
  8. Oct 2, 2012 #128 of 148
    OinkinOregon

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    I connected a 3 TB Seagate external drive to my Hopper and it formatted and shows available approximately 2.8 TB available. I do not think the limit is 2 TB. I think it will count whatever you connect to it. :D
     
  9. Oct 2, 2012 #129 of 148
    P Smith

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    Time to try 4 TB drives ...
     
  10. Oct 2, 2012 #130 of 148
    P Smith

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    Actually, there is a problem - using TT BlacX dock, the 3 TB drive (Seagate) has been formatted as 2 TB as I checked the partition's tables (yes, there are many extensions) and what is a bummer: the drive doesn't recognizing by h2k after formatting and request format again after reconnecting.
    Another moment of oops: after activity (formatting) came to the end, the window Att 869 does not went away by itself. Turn OFF/ON by remote cleared it.

    Perhaps it's BlacX's USB-SATA controller limitation. I'll check with Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex Desk enclosure.
    It's got right this time: free space is 2,793 GB.

    Here is part's info:
    all type EXT3 (no XFS)
    P1: 1 GB
    P2: 500 GB
    P3: 500 GB
    p4: 1.8 GB (extension)
    -- P5: 500 GB
    -- p6: 500 GB ? (extension)
    ---- P7: 500 GB
    ---- p8: 500 GB ? (extension)
    ------ P9: 500 GB
    ------ p10: 293 GB (extension)
    -------- P11: 293 GB

    Seems to me the coder is missed opportunity to create more then one partition in one extension and made it three times plus put wrong size into p6.

    Also, I don't last partition by using the partition's data, only by manual calculation (!) - here is all partitions (one sector's size is 4 KB).

    EDIT: For sure that coder made more bugs: he did improperly calculated offsets for second and third extensions while first was OK (that's why I missed third extension and another 500 GB).
    It will be messy for ppl archiving more 1.5 TB of data if the coder will not get fixed his partition's creating routine.
     

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  11. Oct 2, 2012 #131 of 148
    P Smith

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    It's time for install the 3 TB inside ...
     
  12. tapinsharon@yahoo.com

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    Hopper won't read data from EHD.
    We have data on an EHD from 612 and 722. Hopper wants to reformat and so we would love everything. CSR recommended she send out a 211 to view recordings on. We agree to that, but when tech came out to install, the 211(K) also wanted to reformat. Told no solution. We have had tech out two times so far, one day tech was a no show. Three days wasted on this and now we are reverting back to the 612 and 722. Very disappointing.
     
  13. P Smith

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    See threads/posts how to make it work by backup/restore process of "DishArc' folders. Search here for it.
     
  14. garys

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    An EHD formated for any HD dvr will not work on the 211 and should never have been suggested. I'm surprised the tech didn't know that, the csr should have as well.
     
  15. JeffN9

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    There have been other posts about this issue. I believe the remedy is to have a CSR send a "re-hit" to your Hopper to enable the EHD function.
     
  16. P Smith

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    The re-hit will not help, you have only one option: backup/restore disharc folder(s) - see here
     
  17. slightwv

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    FYI: The 722 EHD format is not recognized in the Hopper with Sling.

    Just had one installed and there is currently no way to access the programs. This was confirmed by three different support folks.

    Best that I was told is they are working on a fix but there is no information on the release date.

    After another call to support, the next person couldn't even find any information on the 'fix' so I suspect I was having smoke blown somewhere personal.
     
  18. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    you did ...

    the format is the SAME

    the FW bug well known from beginning a deployment of H , if you searching and reading the forum (at least post#136)
     
  19. slightwv

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    So the only fix is the bootable Linux as described in: Summary of repair?
     
  20. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    if you want your recording badly:
    - get another EHD formatted by your new H2
    - run Linux with two EHDs, old and new
    - copy DishArc folders from old to new
    - remember each EHD with size > 0.5 TB divided for partitions of 0.5 TB and rest of the drive's space in last partition
     

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