Hopper OTA glitches

Discussion in 'DISH™ OTA Support and Discussion Forum' started by tcpuccio1, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. RBA

    RBA Well-Known Member

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    Try a Channel Master CM-4220HD UHF antenna $59.99 free shipping on ebay aimed about 240 degrees. They claim a 180degree viewing angle. SIGNAL DISTRIBUTION: go from antenna to existing distribution amp. from dist. amp. go to a 2way splitter. Output of 2 way splitter to RCA 4 way splitter & another 2 way splitter. You now have 6 outputs to send to tvs.
    WBBZ ch7 & CFTO ch9 may not come in they are VHF stations. That is my educated guess good luck.
     
  2. scooper

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    MOst OTA antennas work better OUTSIDE - not in an attic. Being in the attic will reduce signal strength, AND it can introduce the multipath problem (especially if you have metal duct work up there).

    I have used that 4220 in a forest at 23 miles from the antenna farm in Raleigh NC. I needed to use a preamp, then about 40-75 feet later I had a distribution amp pumping into a 6 or 8 way splitter to various TVs including satellite receiver OTA tuners.

    I would try it on the VHF stations as well, but if reception isn't working - you may need an antenna that has a VHF section or a separate VHF antenna. My preamp had 1 output, a VHF input, and a UHF input since I had a dedicated VHF antenna as well as the 4220

    No matter what they told you, your omnidirectional antenna really isn't.
     
  3. Jim5506

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    If you put a 2 way splitter in with one leg going to the Hopper and the other leg going to a second splitter with 4/6/8 outputs for the TV tuners it will give you the best signal to the Hopper tuner and hopefully adequate signal to each TV's tuner.

    If you assume the Hopper tuner is weaker, it is best to provide it with the strongest signal you can while also sending signal to the TV tuners. The above configuration sends a signal with about -3.5dB to the Hopper (signal @ 1/2 fiull strength from antenna) and the other 1/2 is parceled out to the TV Tuners.

    It is not a recommended solution to put two amplifiers in a system, it tends to amplify the background static more than one good amplifier would, sometimes you lose channels that way.

    A two way splitter gives you approximately 1/2 of the input signal out the two outputs.

    A four way splitter gives you 1/4 of the input signal to each output. And so on.

    You also might look at getting a bow tie type antenna (the more bows the better) and remove the reflector screen since it looks like ABC is to your south and CBS is north, perhaps you can get both that way.

    If you need more signal use this antenna
    Xtreme Signal 8-Bay Bowtie Outdoor HDTV Antenna 65 Mile VHF/UHF (HDB8X) from Solid Signal
    and set the bays at 180 degrees from each other, one north, one south. This will get you a lot more signal than your omni and cover most of your stations..
     
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  4. scooper

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    I'll agree that USUALLY you want only 1 amp in a system, but I needed what I had for cable distance / splitter reasons, The whole trick to it is making sure your end result has the proper amount of signal getting to the tuner, without too much passing between the amps - don't overfeed.
     
  5. tcpuccio1

    tcpuccio1 New Member

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    well I broke down and got the xtreme signal 8 bay antenna I got it from an e-bay store with free shipping. I will take your advice and aim one N and one S and see who the signal is with that I'll home run it right into the OTA dongle and see if I get a better signal and or more channels and I'll leave the omni in the attic and runt it just to all tv's they seem to do just fine with the signal split up multiple ways if it doesn't get as good a signal as the omni I'll do the vise versa and use the new one for the tv's and the omni to just the OTA dongle. I'll wait for a break in the weather before I climb up in the attic. It's super easy to just run a new cable down I have a 3" PVC run right in the middle of the house from the basement to the attic I put that in when the house was still just studs for just such and occasion :) thanks for the suggestions
     
  6. tcpuccio1

    tcpuccio1 New Member

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    ok so I got the antenna the other day and it was actually warm out so I ventured up and ran another line right into the antenna straight into the OTA dongle. I have one pointing North and one pointing southeast because most of the transmitter antenna's are in that direction according to another web site I found that shows on a map exactly where they transmit from. my signal strength for NBC and CBS was worse then with the onmi antenna Are you kidding me??? so I ran the antenna into the in on my RCA amplifier and then out to the dongle. Nothing else in the amp but the out to the dongle. It boosted the signal up to nearly 100% for both of them. my ABC is kind of weak 87% I will see how they respond with the new antenna. all the rest of the TV's in the house are on the Omni antenna which I wound up moving in the attic to a more central location to the very peak of the roof which is about 30' off the ground. my tv's will pick up anywhere between 45-50 channels some the picture sucks but they are there. the OTA dongle will only pick up 38 solid stations. which is ok the major networks it picks up. it must need super strong signals in order to tune into them.
     
  7. Jim5506

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    My guess is you are in the Lancaster area (from the zip code) so ABC, CBS and NBC are almost directly south of you and FOX is northwest, so your antenna aim may be a little off. For your current aim to be accurate you should be further west near Lake Erie.
     
  8. tcpuccio1

    tcpuccio1 New Member

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    when I was up there I had my daughter watching the signal strength on the major channels and changing the swing on the bays of the antenna she said it only made at best a 3% change so I just stopped when it had the best signal and locked all the adjustments down there.
     

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