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Hopper - S229 S230/Joey S278 Software Experiences/Bugs

Discussion in 'Hopper System Support Forum' started by James Long, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. 356B

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    It would be nice to see a EHD from any Hopper or Joey in the system.
     
  2. BenJF3

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    I concur
     
  3. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    I don't want one user to be able to set timers on all six tuners.

    One step toward integration that I would agree with (besides the rentals step I noticed) would be sharing the PTAT folder. But full integration would have to be something that could be turned OFF.

    I don't see it as an impossible feature to add ... but figuring out which tuner to use for what recording and which device to physically store the content on is a mess. Joeys tied to *A* Hopper record there ... it is a known. Hoppers record to themselves. It is a known. With complete integration which tuner records what where? The algorithm gets complicated.

    It would not be a bad feature AS LONG AS IT COULD BE TURNED OFF. But I don't see it as a must have.
     
  4. BenJF3

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    All good points and good discussion. I'm not against having Joeys fixed to a set of tuners on a single Hopper as long as I can see what's scheduled across the network. It would be ideal if they got the system smart enough to "find" available tuners based on need/schedule. As I weigh my options between D* and E* complete integration may not be a must have. It's just something I and many others prefer. A toggle on/off is in complete agreement as I can now see why some users prefer that method. Hopefully Dish reps are listening to us.
     
  5. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    I would like a way of transferring programs from one Hopper to another. That way if something did get recorded on the "other hopper" it could be moved to the one where space existed to store the program.
     
  6. P Smith

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    Code:
    S2.30 over S2.23:
    
    PID=08E0h
     DownloadID: 4BNA 
     Upgrading FW :
     S230 :'S040'-'S0ZZ','S223'-'S229','AYA7'-'AYA7'
     S230 :'1[A-D0-2]1[A-B0-1]''S040'-'S0ZZ','S223'-'S230','AYA7'-'AYA7'
     New FW: 'S230'
     List of BootStraps and BuildConfigs and SN: 
     '1...' & 'NA[CFJ].': {XiP813} [2]  R0000000001-R4000000000
    
    S2.78 for S2.29 and S2.30
    
    PID=08E2h
     DownloadID: 4DNA (00/00)
     Upgrading FW :
     S278 :'Model_ZA_Slot_0x001_ID_1LZA.tar.gz''ADA1'-'AFA2','S050'-'S050','S229'-'S230'
     S278 :'AX086_signed.tgz''ADA1'-'AFA2','S050'-'S050','S229'-'S230'
     New FW: ''
     List of BootStraps and BuildConfigs and SN:
     '1...' & 'NA[CFJ].': {XiP813}  R0000000001-R2147483647
     '1...' & 'ND[ABE].': {XiP913} [29] ...
    
    S2.30 for many
    
    PID=08E4h
     DownloadID: 4CNA (00/04)
     Upgrading FW [2]:
     S230 [80,10,02,2268,7742566C]:'S100'-'S229'
     S230 [81,10,25,0041,3EFD6484]:'1[A-D0-2]1[A-B0-1]''S100'-'S230'
     New FW: 'S230'
     List of BootStraps and BuildConfigs and SN: [6/2]
     '1...' & 'NA[CFJ].': {XiP813} [2]  R1881149252-R1881288030
     '1...' & 'NA[CFJ].': {XiP813} [882+881+881+881+888]  ...
    
    S2.78 for some:
    PID=08E8h
     DownloadID: 82TC 
     Upgrading FW :
     S278 :'Model_ZA_Slot_0x001_ID_1LZA.tar.gz''S040'-'S051','AAA1'-'ADR1','AEA2'-'AFA2','1SLD'-'1SLD'
     S278 :'AX086_signed.tgz''S040'-'S051','AAA1'-'ADR1','AEA2'-'AFA2','1SLD'-'1SLD'
     New FW: ''
     List of BootStraps and BuildConfigs and SN:
     '1...' & 'ND[ABE].': {XiP913} [244]  ....
    
    
     
  7. BenJF3

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    That's a good suggestion, but I echo others that the Hoppers need to see each others EHD's. As long as they do that, the storage shouldn't ever be an issue. You could add a few terabytes more and be all set. It would still be nice to be able to organize as you see fit. This again is a place where good integration could "balance" the system. It could be made to assess where to store programs and attempt to keep the drives balanced among Hoppers. My old SA8300HD did something like this. It used the internal first and if there wasn't enough space it would move to the external. However, it was well before whole home and likely much easier to code than the complex Hopper integration would be.
     
  8. scottchez

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    Wow, this is good info. Very impressive.
    Any way to automate or give daily updates of this on a web report.
    Then we all always know when an update was coming down and to who.


     
  9. P Smith

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    That would be doable with distributing tasks: one is making web front-end, others - running 24/7 computers with TSReader and DVB-S cards; for WA it will require 119W:1, 110W: 2, 129W: 2 cards. Each card need for different FW transponder.

    Practically (just need to create own DLL module for parse FW info) the idea perfectly executed and works for DTV FW for years: check Doug's site www.redh.com/dtv
     
  10. 3HaloODST

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    Yeah but knowing Dish, they're not fans of giving "options" because more options = more trouble calls. So if they ever do "full" integration there probably won't be an option to enable/disable the functionality.
     
  11. 3HaloODST

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    One thing I noticed. Can't record any OTA channels that don't have guide data. S230.
     
  12. sregener

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    1) PTAT cannot use OTA. PTAT records 4 channels at once using one tuner because the "big 4" are all on the same transponder on the satellite. The OTA module has a single tuner, meaning it cannot record 4 different channels at once.

    What would be a nice feature would be to have an option to record PTAT for one local channel - in other words, say I watch CBS 90% of the time and prefer the OTA CBS to Dish's. So in some setting somewhere, be able to specify "Record all CBS Primetime using OTA Channel x". This, however, is not a currently available feature. You must select each individual program for recording OTA.
     
  13. keckge

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    I have no idea on how to read the card update thing how do you decipher it to figure out if your hopper is within the next batch to be downloaded to?
     
  14. treecastle

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    My Hopper updated to S2.30 and the Joeys to S2.78 last week. I guess I should have posted this sooner :confused: Where are my manners ;)
     
  15. BenJF3

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    Any new features to speak of? Integration updates?
     
  16. 3HaloODST

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    Nope no updates to the integration (I have also had S229/S230/S278 for a week now.)
     
  17. scottchez

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    Can we get an other update please. This info is very helpful.
    I am wondering if there is now a S2.31 out there and if they added any new receiver IDs to the range.
    I can not find any posts of anyone getting any new updates recently.
    Did they stop due to the holiday or issues?

     
  18. bobukcat

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    I have two hoppers on S230 and no joeys. Both hoppers have a physical Ethernet connection to them that is connected to a router with internet access. Every day when I go to use the Hoppers I have to reset them to get them to show connected to the internet / server and it usually takes several attempts at resetting the MOCA connection and / or the Hoppers before they see each other again. Once they establish connection to each other viewing programs from the other Hopper works fine but every day I have to go through this same process. The same is true for managing the DVR from the internet, unless I manually reset them every day it shows they aren't connected. This is a new install and S230 is the only version I've had so I don't know if this would happen on an older version or not.
     
  19. patmurphey

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    Both connected to the Internet? That's likely your problem. Only one needs to be connected and verify bridging enabled on the connected one and disabled on the other. Did you miss all the discusions about multiple connections causing interference?
     
  20. bobukcat

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    I had guessed that might be the problem so I'm going to disconnect one of them and see if that clears it up. I just had them installed on Sunday and haven't done a lot of research on this particular issue yet so I guess I have missed the discussions you reference.
     

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