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Hopper - S234/Joey S282 Software Experiences/Bugs

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#1 ·
Just got this update! Things I've noticed so far :-

- MANUAL TIMERS!!!
- Slight UI updates
- When you highlight recording folders, it now indicates how many are unwatched
- When you highlight an event on the guide, if the title doesn't fit within the time block, it will now scroll so that you can read the entire title.
- (not tested yet) Probably can now record OTA channels that have no guide data, since there are now manual timers.
- Probably other things that I missed, kinda late and I mainly was looking for manual timers. I'll update this post later on.
 
#3 ·
sregener said:
Astonishing to me how some people bandy about words like "never." This feature can't exist because somebody on the Internet said "never" and we all know that if you read it on the Internet, it must be true. (And yes, the last sentence is self-referencing, so you cannot question it. Bwa-ha-ha.)
I agree!
 
#5 ·
Yeah last night Joey software was still at S278. Now at S282 :D .

Tried to change the title earlier, guess a mod needs to change it.

The good news is, rumor has it that this software will be rolling out quicker than S230 did :) .

Another great feature with S234, can now tune into the "Big Four" all at the same time using only one tuner! Don't even need PTAT enabled either!
 
#8 ·
Thanks for:
Nice button colors.
When watching PTAT, it now keeps track of show ends and % watched.
Closed Captions now work all the time. (Although, after 234 update, they wouldn’t work at all until did front panel reset; even power reset didn’t get them working.)
When using Daily Schedule, making changes no longer pops the list back to the beginning.
Dish Online seems to work a lot better. It reads info from hopper and sets timers fairly reliably. It still doesn’t read all the timers (only pulled up 20 of 26).

Continuing bug / annoyances:

When all three tuners are in use recording and you are watching a prerecorded program, when you are finished with the program you are watching and press Stop then Delete, you cannot delete that program, because the hopper will not switch the picture to one of the tuners that are recording; instead, the picture remains on the stopped program you were watching and therefore won't delete the program because it thinks it's still being used.

When watching a recorded program, selecting Pause, then Skip Fwd to advance a frame and then Play, causes sound to cut out for about 5 seconds and about the time the sound comes back the picture jumps ahead about 10 seconds. Can get around this by hitting Skip Back once before Play.

Skip Back does not go back one frame. (seems to be designed this way ??)

Would be nice if the Timer limit was greater than 96 so I can leave in timers for all 3 or 4 seasons of the broadcasting year and still set up one time timers for movies and sports.

The Skip Fwd problem that showed up with S213, where the picture does not keep up with rapid presses of Skip Fwd.
 
#10 ·
356B said:
Speaking of colored buttons, I'm showing six "services in use" with 5 active and 1 available when I push the red button? It use to be 3, is this a bug or something new? I have 2 Hoppers and 2 Joeys.
If four of them are PTAT channels it is not a bug. :)

One can now watch any of the PTAT channels while one of the PTAT channels is being watched or recorded, 24/7. So if someone using that Hopper (including via a Joey) is watching NBC then others using that hopper (including other Joeys) can watch other local networks without burning a second tuner.

I do not believe you can record off of two PTAT channels on one tuner outside of PTAT times (yet) but you can watch. :)
 
#11 ·
James Long said:
If four of them are PTAT channels it is not a bug. :)

One can now watch any of the PTAT channels while one of the PTAT channels is being watched or recorded, 24/7. So if someone using that Hopper (including via a Joey) is watching NBC then others using that hopper (including other Joeys) can watch other local networks without burning a second tuner.

I do not believe you can record off of two PTAT channels on one tuner outside of PTAT times (yet) but you can watch. :)
Thank you.
 
#12 ·
I tested it the other day, you can indeed record two separate channels from the "PTAT" tuner. However the weird thing is that then you can only record using one more tuner. So you can still only record 3 things at once. However you could watch up to 7 channels at once if you had enough Joeys.
 
#13 ·
Manual timers work nice! Thank you! I can now set an auto-tune timer for 2:45 am on the Weather Channel so the channel is up and buffered when I get out of the shower to get dressed for work.

Now if they would must make the PiP work better! Coming from a combination 722/622 world the PiP controls need help. First, it doesn't remember your settings. If I change the PiP to be side-by-side after the Hopper goes to sleep it resets back to upper right corner. Second, if you bring up the PiP the only way to turn it off is to bring the menu back on and select the close option. With the 622/722 you could bring the PiP up with the button and shut it off by clicking the same button.
 
#14 ·
rgranberry said:
Thanks for:
Nice button colors.
When watching PTAT, it now keeps track of show ends and % watched.
Closed Captions now work all the time. (Although, after 234 update, they wouldn't work at all until did front panel reset; even power reset didn't get them working.)
When using Daily Schedule, making changes no longer pops the list back to the beginning.
Dish Online seems to work a lot better. It reads info from hopper and sets timers fairly reliably. It still doesn't read all the timers (only pulled up 20 of 26).

Continuing bug / annoyances:

When all three tuners are in use recording and you are watching a prerecorded program, when you are finished with the program you are watching and press Stop then Delete, you cannot delete that program, because the hopper will not switch the picture to one of the tuners that are recording; instead, the picture remains on the stopped program you were watching and therefore won't delete the program because it thinks it's still being used.

When watching a recorded program, selecting Pause, then Skip Fwd to advance a frame and then Play, causes sound to cut out for about 5 seconds and about the time the sound comes back the picture jumps ahead about 10 seconds. Can get around this by hitting Skip Back once before Play.

Skip Back does not go back one frame. (seems to be designed this way ??)

Would be nice if the Timer limit was greater than 96 so I can leave in timers for all 3 or 4 seasons of the broadcasting year and still set up one time timers for movies and sports.

The Skip Fwd problem that showed up with S213, where the picture does not keep up with rapid presses of Skip Fwd.
I have the same issue...to delete just leave the DVR function and pick a tuner then go back into DVR and now you can delete the show.
 
#15 ·
Just got the update last night (12/17/12). In addition to what has already been mentioned, the sports finder page (blue button from live) changed a little with an addition or two and the sports finder itself has a much improved interface and selection button/method. Haven't used update much yet but will edit/add features as I find them if they are not already mentioned elsewhere.
 
#17 ·
This is the first time I've had a missed recording(s) with the Hopper. :( It was on S230 when I checked on Monday but has been upgraded to 234 sometime since. Last night it missed 4 recordings it was scheduled for: PTAT, Late Night w/ Jimmy Fallon and 2 instances of "Justified". There were no other Timers scheduled and in all instances of the missed timers the daily schedule shows: "Completed by User: Living Room 1" but under that it says "Timer Started:" with the proper start time, then "Recording Started: N/A", "Timer Stopped:" with the correct end time and finally "Recording Stopped: N/A". It gets weirder in that the series timer for Justified should have recorded the three back-to-back episodes starting at 2:00, 3:00 and 4:00 AM. It missed the first and last one but actually recorded the middle one and that is reflected in the recording start and stop times. If this continues I'm going to be really unhappy. In all the years I've had DVRs with Dish I don't think I've ever missed a recording that wasn't due to operator error, signal loss.
 
#18 ·
I experienced this only once months ago with my Hopper. Have you unplugged the Hopper from the electrical outlet for 10 seconds to have the receiver reboot? If this continues, please PM me your receiver number so I can submit a trouble report to our engineering team. Please let me know. Thanks.

bobukcat said:
This is the first time I've had a missed recording(s) with the Hopper. :( It was on S230 when I checked on Monday but has been upgraded to 234 sometime since. Last night it missed 4 recordings it was scheduled for: PTAT, Late Night w/ Jimmy Fallon and 2 instances of "Justified". There were no other Timers scheduled and in all instances of the missed timers the daily schedule shows: "Completed by User: Living Room 1" but under that it says "Timer Started:" with the proper start time, then "Recording Started: N/A", "Timer Stopped:" with the correct end time and finally "Recording Stopped: N/A". It gets weirder in that the series timer for Justified should have recorded the three back-to-back episodes starting at 2:00, 3:00 and 4:00 AM. It missed the first and last one but actually recorded the middle one and that is reflected in the recording start and stop times. If this continues I'm going to be really unhappy. In all the years I've had DVRs with Dish I don't think I've ever missed a recording that wasn't due to operator error, signal loss.
 
#19 ·
I received the update to S234 on the Hopper and S282 on my 1 Joey last Monday. Since then, on my Joey, when I try to watch one of the PTAT channels while it's recording during prime time, the Joey will freeze, then resume, then freeze etc. The only work around I've been able to do is to watch what's already been recorded a minute of so after being live. This isn't happening on the Hopper, just the Joey. It's happened for the last 2 nights, but it's fine during the day. Did I get a bad update to the Joey and can it be fixed?
 
#22 ·
I'm having trouble clearing the message that my remote is set to control a different device. This in spite of being able to do things like bring up a list of programs and select one and start it for playback. Sometimes the message just sticks there and won't go away. Repeatedly pressing the SAT button on the remote (which lights up with pressing) frequently doesn't clear this message. I replaced the batteries with fresh ones and the problem persists.

Anyone else seeing this?
 
#23 ·
I got S234 on my Hopper a few days ago and I have noticed that when I skip forward or backward multiple times while watching a recorded program that the sound goes away for 5-7 seconds. If I fast forward it does not. I don't have this issue with my Joeys (s282). It doesn't happen with Autohop either. It didn't do this before the update.

I gotten use to skip forwarding past the commercials and now I'm missing the first 5-7 seconds of the program after the commercial break.
 
#24 ·
Please PM your receiver number to me so I can submit a trouble report to our engineering team since you stated this didn't occur until the latest software update. Please let me know. Thanks.

Ramer84015 said:
I received the update to S234 on the Hopper and S282 on my 1 Joey last Monday. Since then, on my Joey, when I try to watch one of the PTAT channels while it's recording during prime time, the Joey will freeze, then resume, then freeze etc. The only work around I've been able to do is to watch what's already been recorded a minute of so after being live. This isn't happening on the Hopper, just the Joey. It's happened for the last 2 nights, but it's fine during the day. Did I get a bad update to the Joey and can it be fixed?
 
#25 ·
I sometimes see the message remain for a few seconds after I press the SAT button but it does disappear. Have you checked your antenna to ensure it is upright and hand tight? Have you unplugged the Hopper from the electrical outlet for 10 seconds to have it reboot? Please let me know. Thanks.

sregener said:
I'm having trouble clearing the message that my remote is set to control a different device. This in spite of being able to do things like bring up a list of programs and select one and start it for playback. Sometimes the message just sticks there and won't go away. Repeatedly pressing the SAT button on the remote (which lights up with pressing) frequently doesn't clear this message. I replaced the batteries with fresh ones and the problem persists.

Anyone else seeing this?
 
#26 ·
Since this didn't occur prior to the oftware update, please PM me your receiver number so I can submit a trouble report to our engineers. Thanks.

j_t said:
I got S234 on my Hopper a few days ago and I have noticed that when I skip forward or backward multiple times while watching a recorded program that the sound goes away for 5-7 seconds. If I fast forward it does not. I don't have this issue with my Joeys (s282). It doesn't happen with Autohop either. It didn't do this before the update.

I gotten use to skip forwarding past the commercials and now I'm missing the first 5-7 seconds of the program after the commercial break.
 
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