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Hopper3 hookup

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by mwdxer, Jul 31, 2017.

  1. mwdxer

    mwdxer Well-Known Member

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    If the FW was old, couldn't Dish just update it for me?
     
  2. RBA

    RBA Well-Known Member

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    If you connect unused equipment to the DISH system and put it in standby it should update to the latest version of software available. I have seen equipment that has been out of the data stream for years fail to update, in that case DISH replaced the old receiver with a unit with current software.
     
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  3. mwdxer

    mwdxer Well-Known Member

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    The problem with buying the spare receiver from Dish, the CSR told me that they could not guarantee I would be a vip211k or vip211z. that is the reason I am buying the receiver elsewhere. I want the vip211k with the OTA tuner. I will find out from Dish Depot if the receiver been updated to the latest FW.
     
  4. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    it's up to you what you prefer, just keep in mind: referb vs new
     
  5. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    it's depend of current FW spool's rules - examples of such you could find in my posts back to 2010+
     
  6. mwdxer

    mwdxer Well-Known Member

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    Well I will check and see if the FW can be updated. Dish should be able to let me know,
     
  7. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    If you get the right person at DISH (pot luck/roulette). Get the wrong person and you could be told anything.

    That being said, any recent refurb ("LIKE new" condition) should have the current firmware or something recent enough that it will update as soon as it sees a satellite. That would apply whether you get the receiver direct from DISH or via a reseller. My concern would be how long that receiver sat on a shelf waiting to be shipped. But it would need to be years out of date not to take a firmware update (normally specified by being older than current firmware and within a serial number range). The issue I have seen with not being able to update is a receiver with firmware so old that it cannot control a current switch and tune the right transponder to find or download the update. But the receiver would need to be years out of date to not be able to control a current switch.
     
  8. mwdxer

    mwdxer Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. I have bought from Dish Depot several times and I have not had any issues. The $89 price is not bad either.
     
  9. NYDutch

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    I went from a 211k to a Hopper with Sling, and I think it would be very difficult to go back now. Even with the extra cost of the OTA adapter and higher monthly fee, the Sling capability and virtually eliminating DVR scheduling conflicts has been well worth it in my opinion. And if you're using one of the standard Dish multi-LNB dishes like the 1000.2 or 1000.4, the wiring change needed can be as simple as adding a 3' RG6 coax and a Solo Node at the dish. Going to a Hopper 3 would add a little more complexity, but still not difficult.
     
  10. mwdxer

    mwdxer Well-Known Member

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    What would the extra DVR fee cost and does the Hoppers have Composite or Component out? I can easily record anything to my DVR or DVD Recorder the way I have it set up.
     
  11. NYDutch

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    The Hopper DVR monthly fee is $15. The Hopper has component and composite RCA output, and HDMI of course, but no modulated RF like the 211k.
     
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  12. mwdxer

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    Thanks. I will think about it. I like the fact the 211k has no fees. I just pay for programming. For an older single guy, it works well most of the time. On occasion I do have a conflict, but most of the time the program or movie is repeated.
     
  13. NYDutch

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    I won't argue with that. I'm 74 and not single, but if I were, it's quite possible I would see it the same way...
     
  14. mwdxer

    mwdxer Well-Known Member

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    I'm 68 and a widower, and the 211k does a good job for me. An extra Dish tuner would be nice on a rare occasion, but paying an extra $15 a month just is not worth it to me. I am surprised the 211k has no fees with the OTA add on, but of course that add on is up to the customer. Dish does not control if the person wants/has OTA or not. There are probably a lot of 211k's out there the OTA tuner is never used. Also the add on the HDD is also up to the customer and they buy the hard drive themselves. So the Vip211k has perks, but the person has to spend a bit of out of the pocket to get everything they want compared to a Hopper or Wally.I guess there is no free lunch. :)
     
  15. crodrules

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    If you buy the receiver from Dish, see if they will schedule the installation for free. Then, if the installer shows up with a ViP211z, just refuse the installation unless he can get you a ViP211k. I had that happen to me once. When I refused the "z" the installer got me a "k" with no problem.
     
  16. mwdxer

    mwdxer Well-Known Member

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    I prefer to do my own work and anyway, the receiver is $10 more from Dish.
     
  17. crodrules

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    That's weird. The last time I got a ViP211k from Dish, they quoted me a price of $50. Maybe you need to speak to the Loyalty Department.
     
  18. mwdxer

    mwdxer Well-Known Member

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    They quoted me $99 and they could not guarantee the vip211k. There was no way for me to order the "k". I do not want the "z" without the OTA tuner.
     
  19. scooper

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    If you get a Z without a tuner, you should be able to get the same USB OTA tuner that the Hoppers use.
     

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