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Hostess Brands Moves to Wind Down Operations, Sell Assets

Discussion in 'The OT' started by fluffybear, Nov 16, 2012.

  1. Nov 18, 2012 #61 of 313

    Davenlr Geek til I die

    Sep 16, 2006
    There is one in Little Rock. Its the most popular donut shop in town.
  2. Nov 18, 2012 #62 of 313
    Lord Vader

    Lord Vader Supreme Member DBSTalk Club

    Sep 20, 2004
    Galactic Empire
    When I was living in west suburban Chicago, in Du Page County, there was a Krispy Kreme that opened up in the early 2000s, give or take (I don't remember exactly what year) in a neighboring suburb. It was only 2 miles from me.

    The place was packed, especially when the donuts were being rolled off the line between 5:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m. It opened at the same time numerous Chicago area Krispy Kreme stores opened.

    Well, within a few years, all of them closed. Sadly, no more Krispy Kreme shops were near me, and now that I'm in Houston, the closest ones are in Austin. Ugh.
  3. Nov 18, 2012 #63 of 313

    SayWhat? Know Nothing

    Jun 6, 2009

    KK sucks.

    DD rocks.
  4. Nov 18, 2012 #64 of 313
    Lord Vader

    Lord Vader Supreme Member DBSTalk Club

    Sep 20, 2004
    Galactic Empire
    DD's donuts are too heavy. KK is better. Shipley's are very good, though.
  5. Nov 18, 2012 #65 of 313

    Davenlr Geek til I die

    Sep 16, 2006
    DD just opened 3 stores here. They are pretty empty. KK is busiest, and Shipleys does the most business (more stores).
  6. Nov 18, 2012 #66 of 313

    longrider Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    Apr 21, 2007
    Elizabeth, CO
    I am surprised no one has mentioned Lamar's That is my favorite donut shop, to me Krispy Kreme is a one trick pony. Their glazed donut when it is hot and fresh is the best out there. However everything else reminds me of what you get from the grocery store.
  7. Nov 18, 2012 #67 of 313

    scooper Hall Of Fame

    Apr 22, 2002
    Youngsville NC
    My all-time favorite donut's were found in Lawrence KS - Joe's Donuts. They were a KU tradition. Everyone would go down to Joe's (especially when they were coming off the line).

    Krispy Kreme aren't too bad, and there's a Daylight Donuts as well as Duncan Donuts around here. But none of them compare to Joe's <sigh>.
  8. Nov 18, 2012 #68 of 313

    fluffybear Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Jun 19, 2004
    From Fox News:
  9. Nov 18, 2012 #69 of 313
    Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    As opposed to killing the brand the way they just did? ;)

    I realize the sacrifice of fresh vs "preserved"... but I kind of think that is where the consumer base has been evolving, and that's why Hostess brands were suffering... people were opting for healthier or fresher local product rather than whatever it was inside of those Twinkies.

    You can't charge people more for crap... but if you make a quality product, people are more apt to pony up for more to keep the stuff they like.

    It would have required a change of business model... true... but clearly the model they were going on bankrupted the company in 2004, and again in 2012... so it's not like their "save money by making goop-in-a-box" model was growing their business.

    I know I stopped eating their stuff 20+ years ago... and I honestly haven't missed them.

    Now Wonder bread and Merita bread is a different animal... those at least still tasted like actual food to me.
  10. Nov 18, 2012 #70 of 313
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    The brands are not dead ... they will just be sold to someone else. It has happened before and probably will happen again.

    What would kill the brand is destroying the product ... making a "new" formula that people do not like as much as the current. Similar to the way Coke damaged their brand by telling everyone who loved Coke that the Coke they loved wasn't good and a "new formula" would be taking its place. That was a huge marketing mistake.

    I'm not sure people would believe "healthy Twinkies" if they were offered ... and any new formula Twinkie that spoiled quickly would not be able to be distributed as widely as the current product.
  11. Nov 18, 2012 #71 of 313

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    Dec 2, 2010
    Oddly, perhaps not so oddly, KK has a very small presence in NJ and New England states, but a seemingly robust presence in many other states. It could be that the competition in N.E. is too tough so they pulled out of most of those markets.

    There are four in the Bay Area, IIRC, the first one opened ca. ten years ago.
  12. Nov 18, 2012 #72 of 313

    lwilli201 Hall Of Fame

    Dec 22, 2006
    A Mexican billionaire may get into the bidding for Twinkies. He is in the baking business. It is going to be renamed "Los Twinkies" :lol:
  13. Nov 18, 2012 #73 of 313

    Davenlr Geek til I die

    Sep 16, 2006
    While everything made by Hostess is on my doctors "do not eat" list, trying to lower my weight and cholesterol, I just bought up one of the last two boxes of Suzy Q's on my stores shelf. Just havent found a generic equivalent that tastes the same.
  14. Nov 18, 2012 #74 of 313

    ub1934 Icon

    Dec 30, 2005
    UpState NY
  15. Nov 18, 2012 #75 of 313

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    There will be a lot more of this in the coming two to four years. The jobs aren't likely to go overseas but they'll certainly go to areas where the unions haven't visited yet. American companies can't take financial pressure from government (taxes), a poor economy and labor (wages and skyrocketing benefits). Of course labor is one thing they may be able to do something about.

    This process (union busting under a Democratic Washington DC) isn't new, but Hostess is a name that everyone recognizes. The real fear is whether or not somebody larger (ie. Government Motors) will try this at some point.
  16. Nov 18, 2012 #76 of 313
    Lord Vader

    Lord Vader Supreme Member DBSTalk Club

    Sep 20, 2004
    Galactic Empire
    James Long referred earlier to shelf life, changing the product, etc. This got me to thinking when I went this week to buy a box of Twinkies, something I haven't eaten in years and haven't enjoyed eating in years. I now remember WHY I haven't eaten Twinkies--they're just not as good as they once were. They're harder and not as sweet. When I bite into them, I'm thinking, "Blah."

    They never were like this when I was younger. Because of this, I, for one, will not miss them.
  17. Nov 18, 2012 #77 of 313

    Davenlr Geek til I die

    Sep 16, 2006
    Bet their sales are off the charts tho. Be funny if this was all a big sales scam.
  18. Nov 18, 2012 #78 of 313
    Lord Vader

    Lord Vader Supreme Member DBSTalk Club

    Sep 20, 2004
    Galactic Empire
    I'm more of a Ding Dongs fan. I just LOVE those little things. Pop two of them into my mouth. Yummy!

    Now don't get me started on pizza. I move to Houston from Chicago, which IMHO is THE pizza city of the USA, and I have YET to find good pizza here. Tolerable pizza? Sure. But nothing better than average.

    Damn! I'm pissed. I'm suffering withdrawal.
  19. Nov 18, 2012 #79 of 313

    trh This Space for Sale

    Nov 2, 2007
    NE FL
    Now that some states have legalized marijuana, you'd think Twinkies' future is looking up. :D
  20. Nov 18, 2012 #80 of 313

    AntAltMike Hall Of Fame

    Nov 20, 2004
    I remember when the Drake's Swiss Roll cake sold for twenty five cents in the mid 1960s and were so large they had markings on the package to guide the purchaser into cutting it into thirds. By the mid 1970s, they had downsized it to the size of a Yodel.

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