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How do I add a 2nd Dish to Turbo HD EA install?

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by thenamesash, Aug 26, 2009.

  1. thenamesash

    thenamesash Mentor

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    So about a month ago, Dish moved some of the channels from 61.5 to 77 for the Turbo HD EA install. I am in the NE US and have the Eastern Arc install with Turbo HD and a 1000.4 dish which is supposed to get 61.5, 72 and 77. The problem is that where I am located in the US, my 1000.4 eliptical dish can't pull in 77 with any consistency. I want to get a 2nd dish and aim it right at 77 to get better signals. I am somewhat technical so can't see why I can't do this myself. Before someone asks, I have no LOS to 110 so that won't work, my only choice is to get a 2nd dish and point it at 77 to increase those signals to hopefully good enough to get the programming that I lost (2 STZ channels, ENCORE, WGN and the local college sports channel).

    My questions are:

    1. What dish will I need, will any 30" dish on Ebay work?
    2. What LNB do I need?
    3. How do I connect the 2nd dish that I will aim at 77 to the existing wiring of the 1000.4 dish? Is it as simple as disconnecting the 77 LNB on the 1000.4 dish and running RG6 from the LNB of the 2nd dish and then aiming it at 77?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Jim5506

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    Look for a 30 inch dish that will accept a DPP twin lnb (like is used on the Dish 1000 for 129). For that matter you could use a Dish 500 with an I adapter and a DPP twin or Dish 300 with a DPP twin.

    You need to cover the "eye" of the 77 lnb on the D1000.4 (with an aluminum can or such) and connect the wing dish to the input on the 1000.4 lnb. I believe the three lnb's on the 1000.4 are integrated into the switch and cannot be disconnected.
     
  3. scooper

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    I was thinking he might want to get a DPP33 switch to do this with. But I would agree with your dish configs.
     
  4. puckwithahalo

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    Yeah, that should work just fine :) He could also use a Dish 300 with a DP Dual on it. Might be a little cheaper than any of the twin options (DP or DPP).
     
  5. thenamesash

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    I forgot to add that I have a 612 DVR and 211 tuner so not sure if that matters? It sounds like I need to:

    1.Get a 1000 dish with the twin LNB

    2. Connect the 129 LNB output of the 1000 dish to the input of the 1000.4 LNB. I am guessing that there is a coax input there?\

    3. Cover the 1000.4 77LNB "eye" with tinfoil

    4. Aim the 1000 dish at 77


    Do I understand correctly? If so, then:

    1. Which LNB output of the 1000 dish is the correct one so I will be able to pick up 77 (is it 129?)?

    2. Which LNB eye on the 1000.4 dish is 77 that I will need to cover with tinfoil?

    3. Will any quad-shielded RG6 cable work to connect from the 1000 dish's LNB output to the input on the 1000.4 dish?

    4. Any suggestions on how to peak the 1000 dish or 77 without any meters?

    Thanks!
     
  6. quannj

    quannj Cool Member

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    thats alot of work for a max of 8 channels
     
  7. Mertzen

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    I think you can use the 1000 dish with just a single LNB in the bracket. With the correct meter or a lot of patience you should be able to pick up the 77.

    On the EA dish the 77 is the outside LNB of the joined ones. It has one for 61.6 and a joined one for 72.5 and 77. You might have to use metallic ducting tape rather then tin foil.


    Where in VT are you located. I might be able to help you out with this on location and get some of the guessing out of the equation.
     
  8. thenamesash

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    Yeah, my fear is that they start adding more channels to 77 and then I am hosed.
     
  9. allen31

    allen31 New Member

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    I also live in Northern VT and am having the same issue. What I have found out is people that have the Eastern Arc HD packs and live in the northern part of VT, NH, & ME can't get 77 with the 1000.4 dish setup. Dish has not been helpful in resolving this yet, and there probably aren't enough customers to make them help out. I'd love to know if this works and how easy it is. I have the same set up as you mynameisash and have the same issue - no direct line of sight to the West. I'd love to know if this works and how easy it is to do.

    Thanks.
     
  10. puckwithahalo

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    All you need to do is cover the "eye" on the 1000.4 that points at 77. Then point a dish 300 with a dp dual lnb on it at 77, then run a line from it to the "input" on your current 1000.4
     
  11. dsp81

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    You only need a DP single. The DP dual has two outputs, you only need one in this case. In addition to the 300 dish, the 500 dish with a single will work as a wing.

    To point using the receiver, connect the wing dish directly to the receiver's #1 input (no seperator). Run a check switch. Get your look angles off a site like dishpointer.com and hone in from there. Lock down the dish. As mentioned, connect the wing dish to the [LNB In] on the 1000.4 and cover the 77 LNB. You can use automotive exhaust heat tape (made of aluminum) to cover the eye - available at an autoparts store. Use multiple applications if need. Connect the separator, the 1000.4, and run a check switch.
     
  12. puckwithahalo

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    I could be wrong, but I don't believe they ever made a DP Single. The only single was the original legacy. I'll double-check that to be sure though.
     
  13. dsp81

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    http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?prod=ES7104

    The only difference is the single is for one receiver, the dual is for two.

    Both are available for not much money on eBay or Craig's List. Just make sure you get the yoke.
     
  14. puckwithahalo

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    I know what the difference is. For some reason I had it in my mind that there wasn't a DP Single. I stand corrected. :D
     
  15. Mertzen

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    Been thinking of helping you guys out with a D* slimline to get 77 with extra gain compared to any E* dish available. Or even an old superdish I have around. LEt me know if interested.
     
  16. allen31

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    Hey Merten - I read your pm and tried to send you one back, but I only have 2 posts (including this one) and it won't let me send one until I hit 5 posts.
     
  17. Mertzen

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    I'll PM you my email address.
     
  18. BobaBird

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    I don't believe the DPP Twin can be used for the Dish 1000.x input. A DP Twin can be used to feed a DPP Twin's input but I'm not sure if it can be used to feed the 1000.x. Correct way is to use a DP Single or DP Dual.
     
  19. aaronwt6

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    I'll tell you what I did a while back. We had a similar problem here in SE Georgia with the 129 before they launched Ciel 2. What I did was take a Type 1 Superdish (fiberglass type) and point directly at the 129 (77 in your case). Remove the 105 LNB from it and put the miniture 110 LNB in its place. Make sure you also swap the plastic piece in front of the 105 with the one for the 110. The 105 has a linear poloarization and that piece in front accompnies it. Anyway, I was able to double my signal strength over using the Dish1000. Just run that LNB to the input on the 1000.4. Cover the eye for the 77 like everyone said. You can do it with a piece of aluminum foil and ductape.

    Anyway, this is a cheap solution as opposed to buying a new dish. I actually have a several at my house right now that I picked up for free on conversion jobs to Dish1000s.
     
  20. Mertzen

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    Progress so far on a modified slimline dish.
    "Naked" DP dual on with corner brace on LNB arm.
     

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