How do i connect 2 vip211z to my 1000.2 Dish Pro Plus

Discussion in 'ViP211(411)/211K/222 Support Forum' started by orabun, Jul 7, 2020.

  1. PappysMF

    PappysMF New Member

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    The location where I want the system installed is at LAT 39.7985, LONG-76.2834. I am in SE PA and right now my home system (the dish I want to set up is 5 miles away from my home) is catching satellites 72 and 61.5, if that helps? This system was just installed about a year and a half ago.

    I have an older dish that was removed from my home when I upgraded to the Hopper, or it may have even been a dish before that? At one time I had three dishes on my roof! It is the DP Plus Digital LNBF P/N 151300. I have a old VIP211 I was going to try out.

    We will definitely want as much HD as possible. So it sounds again like my best move would just be to have a totally new system installed? I just figured since I had this older system laying around I would try to utilize it. But anything short of what we currently have at home i am sure will be a disappointment and a regret. And then my wife will call me cheap and harass me until I get an upgraded system. LOL
     
  2. PappysMF

    PappysMF New Member

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    I forgot the TV market location. I am located directly between Harrisburg PA, Philadelphia PA, and Baltimore MD. My closest city is Lancaster, PA. My local news network would be NBC affiliate WGAL 8.
     
  3. scooper

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    Ok - so your locals are probably on Eastern Arc.

    So - if you have Dish do a new install - they would probably use a 1000.2 Eastern Arc 2 LNB Dish aimed at 61.5 and 72.7.

    If you have a Dish500 Dish with a DishProPlus LNB - You CAN use that, but it won't have the same signal strength as the 1000.2 EA. There's enough slop builtin that the 11.2 degree spacing can be covered by the Dish500. Just use the same numbers as the 1000.2 EA for 61.5 / 72.7 on Dishpointer. Depending whether Locals or Cable channels are more important to you, use a weak CONUS transponder on 61.5 (locals peaked) or the weakest transponder on 72.7 ( national cable channels peaked). The LNB head on the right will be the 61.5 and the left side will be 72.7 (as viewed from the back of the Dish).

    This takes care of the technical side. The legalities -
    By the terms of service, with a 2nd location, you need a 2nd account. You can get around that by hauling your receiver back and forth, and telling Dish that you have changed your SERVICE Address (not your billing address). This would be easier if both locations have the same Dish / LNB setup.
     
  4. PappysMF

    PappysMF New Member

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    And I now see what you mean about finding the right satellite. I switched over to the 129W CIEL-2 / Galaxy 12 (G-12) (assuming that would be the correct one for all HD programming?) and it pointed my dish in the same direction as my one at home which is roughly 183 degrees south.
     
  5. PappysMF

    PappysMF New Member

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    I would say we would be more interested in cable channels over locals, my college football and her murder mystery shows. Would signal strength be a concern? I see I can buy a complete new dish as you described for $96 on Amazon. And am I safe to assume the VIP211 will work well with this new set up?

    As far as legalities I am figuring on just getting the second account. Every now and then we would both want to watch TV from both locations at the same time.
     
  6. scooper

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    Generally - All HD receivers will work with any Dish / LNB you can buy.

    If you are setting up a 2nd account, I would just let Dish deal with the installation (but then you would have a commitment).
     
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  7. harsh

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    The specifications are for the wrong satellite. On dishpointer.com, you need to click on the "Multi-LNB Setups" link above the satellite drop-down and then select DISH 500+ from the same drop-down. The DISH 500 isn't exactly the same (I think the DISH 500+ points at 118 and the DISH 500 points somewhat east of that), but it is close enough on the elevation and skew parameters.

    I would recommend that you use a DISH 1000.2 instead. LNBs don't seem to last forever and it is comforting to know that the dish or LNB arm isn't bent. You can use the same mast if it looks sound.
     
  8. PappysMF

    PappysMF New Member

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    Harsh, I see that now, thanks!

    I certainly appreciate all of the help I have received from you all. I will keep you updated on which direction I go with. But it likely won’t be for another week or so.

    Thanks again!!
     

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