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How do we match Directv's new stuff

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by inazsully, Dec 30, 2009.

  1. Dec 30, 2009 #1 of 121
    inazsully

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    DirecTV announced that their new bird is up and ready for action. They say new Hd channels are on the way with perhaps some 3D programming. They also say their rates will be going up, probably in Feb. Can we match anything besides the rate increases?
     
  2. Dec 30, 2009 #2 of 121
    James Long

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    DISH has also announced "more HD on the way" ... nothing specific.
    I believe they will be able to match or beat everything except the price increase.
    DirecTV can remain the leader in increasing their prices. :D
     
  3. Dec 30, 2009 #3 of 121
    RAD

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    The DirecTV 12 satellite is no where close to being ready for action. It's still in geo transfer orbit and according to some FCC documents it will be early spring before customers start to see new channels from it.
     
  4. Dec 30, 2009 #4 of 121
    phrelin

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    I personally would settle for PBS and BBCA, perhaps with the Rainbow Media Channels IFC, AMC, and Sundance as HD add ons. Without PBS that's only 4 new HD channels.

    PBS, of course, would be 800 or so new channels.:rolleyes:
     
  5. Dec 30, 2009 #5 of 121
    inazsully

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    More HD channels without HD content is nothing to get excited about. BBC in HD seems to be the one single carrot out there. PBSHD is available off air so quite a few folks have that available now. With several major TV manufactures banging the 3D drum I wonder what that might lead to.
     
  6. Dec 30, 2009 #6 of 121
    Stewart Vernon

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    I don't know that DirecTV really has announced any 3D or not. I've seen some posts around the 'net that suggest they have... but it doesn't look like DirecTV has announced such a thing.

    BUT... devil's advocate...

    I think broadcast 3D might be a ways off. The 3D Blu ray spec was recently finalized, so maybe maybe we might see a Blu ray or 2 released later next year. There are already HDTVs compatible with the spec and at least the PS3 player is as well...

    but I think broadcast would require more bandwidth than anyone wants to devote to it right now. Heck, we're already waiting for HD channels that exist but aren't carried yet by either Dish or DirecTV.
     
  7. Dec 31, 2009 #7 of 121
    inazsully

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    Here is a excerpt from the article on "Engadget HD"
    With the successful launch of Direc TV 12 yesterday (12-29), the satellite company has already announced it will expand to more than 200 HD channels. Satellite 12 will begin operating in Q2 of 2010. Exact rate increases are listed in this article and mentioned the prospects of a new DirecTiVo and 3D channels. You can read this at engadget.com in the HD section.
     
  8. Dec 31, 2009 #8 of 121
    kucharsk

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    Yeah, but there's no announcement from D* as to what those channels will be.

    As we know well, they may decide to add 199 HD PPV/VoD channels.
     
  9. Dec 31, 2009 #9 of 121
    inazsully

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    You are correct of course. We have all learned the hard way to take any announcements from "D" or Dish with a huge grain of salt. But from a marketing standpoint "D" is keeping their name in front of the public. How many new HD channels can you conjure up anyway? With Panasonic spending millions on 3D displays and announcing sets in dealers in 2010 I look for 3D to be the next revolution in the USA and has already started in the UK. Hence the currently un needed extra band width available with "D's" Sat 12.
     
  10. Dec 31, 2009 #10 of 121
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    Directv will show 3D stuff at CES. But you'll need glasses. Personally I think it's a scheme to make people think they need one. I'm not buying into this one.
     
  11. Dec 31, 2009 #11 of 121
    inazsully

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    Pretty much anything that's sold today or ever has been sold, from cars to TV's to CD's to DVD's is based on a scheme to make people think they need one. Look at Blu-ray for a perfect example. LCD's started with 720P then 1080P then 120hz now 240hz then LED local dimming then LED side lit. 3D is the next logical step in the "I gotta have that" scheme, and you'll probably see plasma hanging their hat on 3D. Then will come OLED followed my nano technology and then holograms. It's a never ending battle for truth, justice, and the American way (Superman).
     
  12. Jan 1, 2010 #12 of 121
    Jim5506

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    Still enjoying 2D HD.
     
  13. Jan 1, 2010 #13 of 121
    Davenlr

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    So will the "3D" channel look like the old analog channels with ghosting?
     
  14. Jan 1, 2010 #14 of 121
    Stewart Vernon

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    Info is sketchy right now... but from what I've read, it sounds like the home method will be using "shutter" glasses that will alternate left and right eye shutters so each eye sees the proper image. Meanwhile, the HDTV will show alternating left/right images that are properly "filtered" by the glasses.

    In theory, we'd be talking about 120Hz being displayed by the TV, with alternating 60 fps of left eye/right eye images... and the shutter glasses open/close in sync such that your brain puts both images together as a single 3D image.

    I've been looking for the approved spec somewhere online, but either I'm really dumb or it is really hard to find!
     
  15. Jan 1, 2010 #15 of 121
    RasputinAXP

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    Just thinking about this makes my brain hurt; it's like a migraine inducer.
     
  16. Jan 1, 2010 #16 of 121
    Stewart Vernon

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    Quite possible that the watching of such a config might be headache inducing as well... I wonder about those with epilepsy in particular, since they have notoriously had issues with some TV programs or interlaced broadcasts... 3D might be something that could be a problem for them as well.

    (not making a joke there, seriously I am wondering if that will be a problem).
     
  17. Jan 1, 2010 #17 of 121
    Jim5506

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    When do we get the Food Channel 3D?
     
  18. Jan 2, 2010 #18 of 121
    RasputinAXP

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    Epilepsy and migraine have a lot of the same root causes. I have a strong feeling it's going to be a problem.
     
  19. Jan 2, 2010 #19 of 121
    Grandude

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    Won't be worth it in 3D until they introduce 'smellovision' in 2012.:D
     
  20. Jan 2, 2010 #20 of 121
    P Smith

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    How ?

    DTV is skipping the show this year also.
     

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