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How many D* customers might be interested in the VIP 922?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by jclewter79, Jan 9, 2009.

  1. Mike Bertelson

    Mike Bertelson 6EQUJ5 WOW! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    I might like four streams as long as it's all compatible with SWM.

    Mike
     
  2. HDRoberts

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    As far as this argument about the features only being understood by the few at this point, that is just how technology develops. How many people in the 80s knew what a cell phone was and wanted one in the 80s? How many people knew what a DVD was in the 90s and wanted a DVD player? Yet now, these technologies are everywhere.

    Early adopters get them. They show them to their tech savvy friends, who get them. They show it to their regular friends, who get it and show it to their tech impaired friends and so on. If people in the 80s and 90s adopted your attitude about only producing technology that the masses will immediately embrace and buy, we would not have cell phones, PCs, DVDs, DVRs, and HDTVs, just to name a few things.

    And yes, the 922 software needs work. That's why they call it a prototype. It's not even a beta version yet. All I care is how the initial release works.

    Also, if you think all combined devices like the iPhone and other smartphones are failures and people don't use them, that tells me all I need to know about how you evaluate technology, hdtvfan.
     
  3. hdtvfan0001

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    It's based on hundreds of human beings I know using it. :rolleyes:

    That feedback (along with many articles read on the same topic) indicates there is strong enough resistence to the small displays and limited memory functionality in today's "everything in a small box" technology.
    Makes sense...
     
  4. Steve

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    Ya. Not even E* is offering 4 SAT streams.

    For those with OTA capability, I wonder if DirecTV could somehow re-jigger the HR2x software so it can capture 2 SAT and 1-2 OTA streams simultaneously, with no new hardware required?

    Does anyone know of any HR20 or HR2x/AM21 hardware limitations that might make this idea impracticable?

    Just throwin' it out there. :) /steve
     
  5. Hutchinshouse

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    I think I'm with ya on that one. I'll have to have one of thoses DIRECTV Tivo units too.
     
  6. CorpITGuy

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    I second all of this. Smartphones have come a long way in the last 3 or 4 years. I put these devices in the hands of people all the time, and it's great to see their eyes light up when they realize how damned amazing the iPhone is as a business and as a convergence device.

    I've moved us from Windows Mobile and Blackberry to the iPhone and have received tons of praise and zero complaints. It was a good career move. :D
     
  7. GrumpyBear

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    I know Sales Reps can handle Blackberry's/Palm/Windows CE, phones, and if you can teach a Sales Rep to do it, anybody can use them.:lol:
     
  8. HDRoberts

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    Everyone I know who has a smartphone loves it. I myself will be picking up an iPhone when my Sprint contract runs out in Feb. Yeah, it's a small screen. But I don't think a much larger screen could fit in my pocket, which is why most people want a smartphone: to be able to do simple computer tasks with something portable enough to unobtrusively fit in a pocket.

    Seems like the Sony Viao Lifestyle PC was another example of features headed to a small box, and it was rather well received at CES.

    http://ces.cnet.com/8301-19167_1-10138250-100.html
     
  9. GrumpyBear

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    Well, if your company dropped, I can understand why you may think that way.
    On the other hand, my company gives people a Blackberry, in the morning, and laptop in the afternoon, on 1st day of work. There is just no way in today's market that any of us could just use a laptop. To much time on the road, in meetings and just plain ol Traveling. Our competition is the same way, very large field forces and Laptops only for business just wouldn't work, for us nor the competition. I guess Sharp would be the smallest in competition and even they do over 700million in sales yearly(has nothing to do with TV's), top 3 in our business do over 3 billion in sales each, and Blackberry type phones are corporation wide. Heck they even interface with Lotus Notes sysytems nowaday's(side not complaint, as it forces me to support Notes systems) I would love to see your sales numbers and declines of the Smartphone fad.

    922 is still very very very prototype, and like all prototype's at cutting edge tradeshows its supposed to get the idea's flowing on the possiblities. Not that worried about its performance at the show, it will matter once they start delivery of the little buggers.
     
  10. hdtvfan0001

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    They also distrupted too many meetings and other activities...but that's another story for another time.
    I would not expect to see the 922 "little buggers" :D until perhaps 3Q 2009, or so the demo dude in the Dish booth said...and he admitted he was "only guessing".

    By then...who knows what DirecTV will have in their stable of HD DVRs...
     
  11. GrumpyBear

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    That sounds realistic, hoping early 3Q myself. I have plans for it, well 2 of them that is.
     
  12. hdtvfan0001

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    As for the original question....I suspect DirecTV users would welcome a similar version with similar features.
     
  13. Steve

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    Do you think that DirecTV can deliver a major new product in 2009 that hasn't already been announced at CES? Have they done that in the past? (I'm not talking about incremental upgrades, like the HR22 or HR23.)

    Not a rhetorical question, BTW, I'm genuinely curious to know if that's ever happened. Will give me something to look forward to in 2009. :) /steve
     
  14. hdtvfan0001

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    Great question...

    I defer to those who might have the detailed knowledge regarding the time-based history for previous equipment releases...
     
  15. RAD

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    Since DirecTV announced a clamp down on spending I don't think we'll be seeing any major new hardware this year. That is unless they start loosing a ton of customers and it's because of the 922.
     
  16. GrumpyBear

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    Steve,
    That was a great link you posted about the new Broadcom Chip's.
     
  17. CorpITGuy

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    I know many have said it won't happen, but it sure would be nice if they would offer the TiVO upgrade as a software upgrade to the HR-series. That would help with the money issue.

    Probably won't happen, though. :(
     
  18. HDRoberts

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    This is my thought as well. I don't get where everyone gets that DirecTV will come out with a product to trump the 922. :confused:

    I bet anything when the 922 rolls out, the most advanced DirecTV HD DVR will still be called the HR23. Maybe they will have an HR24 with the same HRx features, but another hard drive upgrade. But that is all.

    If they start losing customers to the 922, the best solution might just be to start buying them for use by DirecTV.
     
  19. ImBack234

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    LOL. :D
    That I would like to see, that's why I say it will never happen.
     
  20. RAD

    RAD Well-Known Member

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    IMHO there's nothing wrong with D*'s most adanced box being the HR23 (which has all the same functionality as the original HR20). Many folks might just be happy with what the HR's can do, some of the things the 922 might not be able to do.

    Plus a lot of it will depend on how well E* executes bringing this box to market. If it turns out to be another 811/921 experience (the 811 was what caused be to switch back do D*) it might cause people to leave E* due to hardware problems.
     

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