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How many of you with Directv think Dish is getting better than Directv

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by mkdtv21, Feb 24, 2012.

  1. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    It always been that way. No technical issue to record whole mux [tpn stream]; problems arises when you will split it for viewing/saving.
     
  2. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    What "we" don't know is how the tuner chip filters/decodes from the transponder. Does the Hopper use a different tuner chip? :shrug:
    DirecTV uses dual tuner chips.
    Hopper looks to have one dual tuner and then the Primetime tuner chip.
     
  3. AquiringSat

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    DirecTV has Free On-Demand Network Programming, which is what this Hopper thing records.

    But anyway, this is (and always will be) the difference between Dish Network and DirecTV.

    Dish Network = Cheap Price, Cheap Service, Cheap Equipment, and Restrictions

    DirecTV = Competitive Price, Great Service, Top of the Line Equipment, and the Most Programming Options

    Ya Get Wat Ya Pay For!
     
  4. RAD

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    Not correct. The Hopper records the local into local HD channels for the customers location. It has nothing to do with On-Demand, which DIRECTV's big four networks is missing a couple and they're not in HD.
     
  5. lparsons21

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    No, D* doesn't have 'free' on demand, you are paying for that each month, just like all the rest of what you get. And the Hopper is recording in real time, not some internet download later, and it is getting all the current prime time shows, which D*'s network VOD isn't.

    And other than more sports, D* isn't bringing much else to the table that is significantly better than E*. I've had both fairly recently and know this to be a fact.

    And yes, you do get what you pay for. And for those wanting/needing a bunch of sports, D* is certainly the way to go. For those of us that don't have that need, both D* and E* offer excellent options from which we can choose.

    As to the hardware, I think it is nearly a wash. There is exactly zero difference in the quality of the hardware from both companies. There are differences in how they interact with the user, with both having features that are great and both having features that pretty much suck, with the rest of the features being just there and good enough.
     
  6. veryoldschool

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    "Case in point":
    Last night a had a glitch with NCIS, where I lost 10 min of the show.
    Checking with On Demand to see if I could find what I missed, showed no CBS.
     
  7. inkahauts

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    Three free hr24s vs a hopper and two joeys? Which is more flexible? Would you prefer that discussion?

    I thinks the comparisons are completely valid. They both are trying to accomplish the same general things, from two different directions. 99 in the grand scheme of how much you would pay for your services from either company over two years is a non issue for this debate.
     
  8. AquiringSat

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    It's all the same programming
     
  9. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

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    If they would just bolster their network on demand offerings to have hd and all the big four channels I'd be thrilled. I would still rally use it, but it'd be nice to have in a pinch, and they could have more than just one episode of a show at a time. They cold have seasons worth and would if they where smart. Of course, there's a lot of rights issues with that, that have nothing to do with DirecTV either.
     
  10. inkahauts

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    I can only imagine how complex it would be to do that and get everyone's local version of programs via on demand. That's a massive infrastructure to deal with.
     
  11. veryoldschool

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    Can you or would you show me where CBS is then?
     
  12. lparsons21

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    3 free HR24s isn't the norm at all. Yes, sometimes you can get that many free, but it is fairly rare.

    But I do think the comparisons are valid since we're basically discussing whole home.

    BTW, it is 1 Hopper plus up to 3 Joeys free from what I've been reading.

    One big advantage of the Hopper+Joeys is that it is all centrally managed. No running around the house setting up 3 HR24s for different series and such, that is a big PITA IMO. I would trade my 3 HR24s for 1 HR34 and an RVU client on the spot! Of course, D* could quit worrying about adding trivial crap like Pandora and YouTube and get unified TODO list working as well as a unified Series Manager, and in their spare time maybe get CIG working! :)
     
  13. veryoldschool

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    This might only be the DNS feeds being stored.
     
  14. veryoldschool

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    The HR34 would be a better comparison, as yes MRV with HR24s can be a PITA.
     
  15. lparsons21

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    And once D* releases a full featured client, it would be a more easy comparison to make.
     
  16. inkahauts

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    You aren't paying anything more for DirecTV on demand. DirecTV on demand is free for anything off of a channel you subscribe to. They only charge extra for ppv programing.

    With that said, isn't that how dish does it as well?

    The great thing is we have choice, because even if I wasn't a sports person, the hardware is far superior on DirecTV than dish (hr34 vs hopper) for the way I would use it. That doesn't mean someone else can't say the exact opposite though. Choice is great. And I love that these two companies try and do everything differently from one another. Leads to more features at both companies.
     
  17. AquiringSat

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    That is weird that they don't have CBS, Fox, CW, or (whatever UPN became), but I JUST NOW Noticed it! I guess that goes to show how often I watch Network TV. I watch The Office and that's about it! I do now see your point though if Network TV is your thing. Which, last I Checked Network TV is FREE to Every Single Human Being in the country, so why that is a difference maker between 2 pay services is strange to me.
     
  18. veryoldschool

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    So today, Dish has one, and DirecTV needs the RVU TVs to compete equally, but can use receivers.
    Tomorrow?
     
  19. inkahauts

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    So if someone had three joeys, and all of them where watching tv live, you couldn't watch anything live on the hopper. That's a nightmare waiting to happen for some people.

    Again, they are different companies. He said you can't argue it unless they are both free, which I disagree with. But still, if he went that path look what happens. Suddenly you have more timers, more tuners, and more flexibility with the DirecTV system, at the expense of slightly more work to set up all the recordings, which shouldn't be much of a deal except for the start of each new season most of the time.
     
  20. lparsons21

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    Yep, it is how Dish does it too. And like D* it isn't free there either, it is part and parcel of the subscriptions you have. And both give it to you if you are hooked to the internet automagically! :)

    As to the hardware, for me it is nearly a wash between the HR34 and the Hopper/Joey setup because of the way I watch/record. I could easily swap out 1 Hopper + 1 Joey for the 3 HR24s I have now and not miss a single program. And actually I might have a rare time that an HR34 with the rumored RVU client might cause me a problem because during primetime I would actually have one less effective tuner.

    And I love choice! Because of those choices I can stay or go whenever I want to and gain some things and lose others. For me it is even easier because the HD programming on both is close enough to the same that I only grumble mildly that I'm missing something I'd like to get in HD.
     

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