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How many of you with Directv think Dish is getting better than Directv

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by mkdtv21, Feb 24, 2012.

  1. dpeters11

    dpeters11 Hall Of Fame

    May 30, 2007
    I'm not that old and I remember those days, of the knob. We had color. One VHF and one UHF with a silver ring around it for fine tuning. My dad did have a remote, me.
  2. Mike Bertelson

    Mike Bertelson 6EQUJ5 WOW! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 24, 2007
    Ok. Stop the bickering. Stop discussing each other. Get back on topic. I'm trying not to delete any posts but if I have to it will be a large clean up and there will be thread bans.

    Everyone will be civil and will start now. If you can't think of something constructive, on topic, and civil then don't post.

  3. mdavej

    mdavej Hall Of Fame

    Jan 30, 2007
    For 2 years, Dish has been the best thing since sliced bread for me (ex-DirecTV sub). I love the line-up, PQ and the new Hopper. But their penchant for dropping channels has just gotten to be intolerable. I knew they were bad about that before I signed up, but it never really affected me until now (they're dropping AMC, IFC and Sundance). Unfortunately DirecTV doesn't have anywhere near the basic HD content Dish has, so going back to them isn't an option. I have no choice but to hold my nose and get cable. I thought I'd never have to endure that again, but neither sat company can get it's act together and offer a full HD lineup. My crappy cable company has surpassed them both.
  4. dcowboy7

    dcowboy7 Hall Of Fame

    May 22, 2008
    Pequannock, NJ
    Im still confused....the article specifically says:

    "The new feature also doesn’t work for any live broadcast that’s been recorded off a major network."

    This to me sounds like it will never work on any program that was live even if its watched days later.

    Again if live shows had the same skip ability as prerecorded shows then why do they seperate live shows out as an exception in their comment ?
  5. Satelliteracer

    Satelliteracer Hall Of Fame

    Dec 6, 2006
    I remember those days. Unfortunately I remember those days. I think my dad had radio. LOL
  6. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    Dec 2, 2010
    Heh. Me, too. And the first remote! A mechanical pinger that made the round channel selector knob chug around to the channel pinged.

    Would that have been a sound wave that activated those babies??
  7. Marlin Guy

    Marlin Guy Hall Of Fame

    Apr 8, 2009

    I think there may be some confusion with how the word "live" applies.
    As you stated above, Auto-Hop is not available for live broadcast recordings. For example, my local Fox affiliate does live news at 10 PM every night. It's recorded and stored in PTAT, but the option to Auto-Hop is not available on those recordings.
    Ditto for tonight's NASCAR race and other sports events that may get recorded in PTAT.

    I assume this is because commercial breaks aren't pre-defined by the networks for such events, so the system has no way of knowing when the commercials are queued.
  8. crawdad62

    crawdad62 Godfather

    Jul 16, 2008
    No the first remote was us.:D The kids always had to turn the channels but yeah I remember those TV's/remotes. My aunt had one and if you pushed one of the buttons (channel up/channel down I think that was it...maybe on off) it would make a barely audible screetching noise.
  9. jimbo56

    jimbo56 Legend

    Nov 13, 2007
    I remember the remote on my first VCR (which cost me almost $1500 in around 1980) was attached to the unit with a 20 foot cord. Talk about a trip hazard!

    I even remember the days when live sporting events had NO instant replay. God, am I ever old!

    Excuse me, I have to go and pre-plan my funeral now.
  10. RACJ2

    RACJ2 Hall Of Fame

    Aug 2, 2008
    OK, we are similar in more ways than one. We both can give praise when its due and then point out some weaknesses. The only reason I included you in that FB group is because you seem take opportunities to talk smack about DIRECTV and then tell us how much better DISH is.

    I can respect your decision to leave DIRECTV, because everyone has different reasons for picking a provider. HD content that I watch is most important to me. Next is the performance and functionality of the equipment. Last is the esthetics of the menus, etc. With that in mind, DIRECTV works best for me, because of NFL ST, NHL CI and all the special sporting events they cover. Plus they have almost all of the channels that I watch in HD. For others, priorities can be much different.
  11. HoTat2

    HoTat2 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 16, 2005
    Our first remote to a "portable" (comparatively speaking in those days of hernia causing weight sets) color TV still somewhat confuses me today as to how it actually worked. It could only change the channel (most of the time) and had no electronic parts. Just a metal bar with a spring loaded striker that hit it to make the channels change. :)

    Sounded a lot like an aluminum baseball bat hitting the ball when you operated or actually "pulled" the remote's switch. :lol:

    Sometimes, even jiggling keys or coins near the TV set would trigger a channel change.

    What was up with that? Did those metallic sounds still generate ultrasonic waves in addition to the audible ones or something?
  12. Marlin Guy

    Marlin Guy Hall Of Fame

    Apr 8, 2009
    I'm not talking smack. I felt as though my experiences may help someone else who is considering changing, and then there's the whole title and theme of this thread.

    I did a tremendous amount of research before calling Dish. I made sure that they had the channels and features that were most important to me. I'm not a big sports fan, and I get my movies from alternate sources, so losing sports packagers that I never subscribed to was equally as meaningless as gaining Blockbuster.

    Once I saw that the only thing I was losing that I liked was Velocity and Hot Pass, I weighed the hardware considerations. My HR20-700 was so slow that it enraged me on a regular basis. I even took the remote apart and cleaned it twice in the last year, because the buttons didn't appear to be working. Then I read where many others were having similar issues, and the new firmware updates were making things worse, not better.

    Add to that the fact that I'd had previous experiences with Dish, and remembered their trickplay to be far better, IMO, and their UI to be faster, and I made the call.

    I made it point to schedule the installation for a week out, and I had the CS rep confirm that I could cancel up to the day before the scheduled installation date, so that I could give DirecTV the opportunity to keep my business. I even recorded the conversation, just to cover all of my bases, anticipating backing out and staying with DirecTV.

    I absolutely would have stayed with DirecTV if they'd offered me all new equipment - matching Dish's offer. They refused to do that. At best, all they would promise me was refurbished HR series equipment, possibly the same series that I had. They said I could always refuse the installation of the tech didn't have what I wanted on the truck.
    This was an illuminating statement to me for a couple of reasons.
    1. They didn't mind throwing the installer under the bus.
    2. The were steadfastly refusing to admit that their software had outgrown the hardware, which meant the future didn't look very appealing at all.

    I politely and frankly told them that they were about to lose my business to Dish, if they didn't step up with new hardware. They refused, and I left. I'm not bitter towards them. That's simply the facts of my case.

    I'm very happy with my new equipment, so in that respect, yes, I am a FB. If DirecTV had worked with me I would likely be very pleased with their new hardware as well, and I'd be singing their praises.

    I post the information, because it is just that - information.
    If it helps someone else to make an informed decision, then it's worthy of being here, and I will post it again and again, should I find it to be relevant to other discussions. I realize that much of it has been repeated in other threads. But I also know enough about forums to understand that not every user reads every thread the way that a handful do. So if my information applies to a new thread, then I'll repeat the story, so that it can be seen again.
    It's no different than someone reposting the technique for clearing the NVRAM multiple times. If it applies, it belongs.

    I'm not going to apologize for relating my own experiences. By the same token, I urge anyone who may be considering switching providers, in either direction, to do their homework and make a well informed decision. I know enough about how these things work to realize that the next person to call a cancellation order in my be treated completely differently, so don't take my experiences, or anyone else's, as any indication of curent policies and practices.

    As for those who seem to get their knickers twisted every time I post about my experiences, I've come to realize that it is their intention to invoke angered responses, thus getting me banned, the thread locked, or both. So the policy is now to ignore them and let the mods deal with them as they see fit.
  13. Jaspear

    Jaspear Godfather

    May 16, 2004
    And here's the irony in that. Five days after I left, DirecTV offered me an HR-34 installed free, $20 a month off my old programming package for a year, and free premium channels for three months. If I had gotten that offer from the retention CSR, I would still be a DirecTV sub. Heck, I'd still be a DirecTV sub if they had offered me just the HR-34!

    On the other hand, if I had stayed, I would not be experiencing the Hopper, far and away the best DVR I have ever used, all the back to my first generation Tivo 12 years ago.
  14. RACJ2

    RACJ2 Hall Of Fame

    Aug 2, 2008
    Fair enough... I guess its the battle that starts, that I was referring to. I try to avoid them, because it reaaly does no good. There are features I like about Dish, just couldn't change because ot the sports I mentioned
  15. trainman

    trainman Hall Of Fame

    Jan 9, 2008
    Yes, that's exactly how they worked.
  16. lparsons21

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    That is perfectly understandable.

    My viewing of sports is boxing and golf, and both services show them plenty, with Dish having a very slight edge with boxing because of Epix.

    I tend to scripted dramas and really good comedies, and both have them aplenty.

    That said, I was prepared to leave D* because of the performance of my HR24-500s and not having BBCA in HD. But now D* seems to have the fix in for the HR24, and Dish looks to be losing AMC. So the decision is back up in the air.

    I have until August to make a choice again as at that time my rebates with D* expire and I can save an overall $480 in the first year after a switch. So basically the choice is pay about $40/month more than I would with E*, but lose AMC. Of course, I can get the AMC stuff I want with streaming and such, but the cost would be a bit on the high side.
  17. Worn

    Worn Cool Member

    May 11, 2012
    Well, I've decided to switch to Dish. I'm going with two hoppers and two joeys. I figured I'd fork out the $200 now rather than pay twice as much when I realized I needed more than a three tuner system.
    I've had both dish and directv and have honestly been happier with dish's remote and lineup, also their pricing is better and I only want the red zone channel, ($9/ month and cancel after the NFL season), vs. $200 + for Sunday Ticket, which is the only way Direct offers the Red Zone channel.
    I gave direct a chance to compete, but $149 for the HMC didn't cut it. I still have a week before installation, so if anyone can convince me otherwise, I'm moving to dish.
  18. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    Dec 2, 2010
    As we say in the West: ìVaya con Dios!
  19. dcowboy7

    dcowboy7 Hall Of Fame

    May 22, 2008
    Pequannock, NJ
    So just to clarify youre saying even if you watch amercian idol 2 days later you still can not use 1 step autohop ?

    Because in post #537 JL says that you can.
  20. dcowboy7

    dcowboy7 Hall Of Fame

    May 22, 2008
    Pequannock, NJ
    Not officially you cant but as many posted here last year they called & did get just the redzone channel for free without having to get ST.

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