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How much would pay for the DIRECTV with TiVo DVR?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Tom Robertson, Sep 3, 2008.

How much more per month are you willing to pay for Tivo DVRs?

  1. $0.00

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. $1/month

    323 vote(s)
    51.9%
  3. $2/month

    25 vote(s)
    4.0%
  4. $3/month

    28 vote(s)
    4.5%
  5. $5/month

    27 vote(s)
    4.3%
  6. $8/month

    108 vote(s)
    17.4%
  7. Price is not an issue

    9 vote(s)
    1.4%
  8. I'd only switch if my bill were reduced

    59 vote(s)
    9.5%
  9. Just looking

    43 vote(s)
    6.9%
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  1. Sep 5, 2008 #181 of 223
    DarinC

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    I think you've already answered your own question. I've had intermittent lock-up and rebooting issues, and when I posted asking about it, one of the first questions I was asked was to post my signal strengths. If the software is properly written, the OS should not lock up or spontaneously reboot just because the signal is weak. Does this mean that people in areas where rain fade is an issue should expect to have their boxes freeze or reboot? I've never had this problem with my TiVos.
     
  2. Sep 5, 2008 #182 of 223
    bonscott87

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    Well, the problem is that Tivo isn't a brand name anymore, it's a noun. Just about *everyone* with a DVR says and thinks they already have a Tivo. Every single one of my friends with their cable DVR thinks it's a Tivo. Both people I know with Dish think their ViP is a Tivo and I quit arguing with the one because he would get so upset that I told him it's not a Tivo and it is so a Tivo according to him. :eek2: And most of my friends with DirecTV think their HR20/21 is a Tivo. And most of those that finally acknowledge that it's not a Tivo just say "well it's the same thing".

    So the Tivo "brand name" to me is rather meaningless when people already think they have Tivo. Thus when DirecTV advertises that you can get Tivo for extra, most people will think "oh, I already have Tivo" or "I thought I had Tivo already". Only the Tivo fanatics or the few that come to these forums will really know the difference.
     
  3. Sep 5, 2008 #183 of 223
    spartanstew

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    We'll just have to agree to disagree. Yes, everyone calls it "tivo" (even us), but the majority of people know that they're not actually using a tivo. It's no different than the fact that everyone calls tissues "kleenex". Even if it's not a kleenex, they still call it a Kleenex. They know it's not a Kleenex (in most cases), but they still call it that. And guess what? If you go to the store, Kleenex usually costs a bit more than the other tissue brands. Why? Because it's a brand name. And not just that, it's actually a brand name that has worked it's way into the American vocabulary (just like tivo), which means it's probably worth even more than other brand names.
     
  4. Sep 5, 2008 #184 of 223
    wesmills

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    Honestly, you're right. It is PC vs. Mac, Windows vs. Linux, vi vs. emacs and so on. For my family, we HATE the HR2x interface. It's too slow, the menus too unfamiliar, and things that we want to do (yes, DLB is important to us, but so are WISHLISTS and suggestions) are either missing or take too many button pushes to activate compared to our DirecTiVos. Given a choice between HD or a TiVo, all three of us have taken the TiVo route. It's personal preference, just like how some people are gaga over HD and others can't see the benefits.

    For my geekiness, I have stuck with the TiVo platform because of the Other Things(tm) (that shall not be discussed here) I can do on the platform. To me, it's a toy that also happens to record, pause and play back television. I LIKE toys, and the more I can tinker with them, the better. Can I do this with the new platform? Maybe not. Heck, probably not. Do I stand a better chance than with the DirecTV-made boxes? Oh yeah.
     
  5. Sep 5, 2008 #185 of 223
    techrep

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    Or, like a Lexus as compared to a Toyota.
     
  6. Sep 5, 2008 #186 of 223
    paulman182

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    No one I know who uses a DirecTV DVR calls it a TiVo.

    That's because in my middle-class (and lower) circle, few of us had anything to record with other than VCRs and DVD recorders, until DirecTV began making such great deals on the R-15. That really caused a DVR explosion in my area, at least among people I know. There's no OTA here--TV comes from small cable systems or satellite. I don't think the cable system that serves my neighborhood offers any kind of DVR.

    I'm sure most of my friends have heard of TiVo. They probably think of it as the company that made DVRs before DirecTV took over the market.

    Just an example of how different people have different perceptions of things.
     
  7. Sep 5, 2008 #187 of 223
    bonscott87

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    Guess we just know different people. Other then a couple people I know everyone I've met that uses a DVR thinks they have a Tivo. Only a couple actually did.
     
  8. Sep 5, 2008 #188 of 223
    JACKIEGAGA

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    I also voted zero I had TIVO and I prefer my HR20-700 and HR21-100 the only feature I truly miss is DLB but I would only take DLB if they were 90 minute buffers. 30 minute buffer just doesen't cut it.
     
  9. Sep 5, 2008 #189 of 223
    rustynails

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    I have never had a Tivo but if it has DLB, PIP, true slow motion, a better guide and faster response then count me in!
     
  10. Sep 5, 2008 #190 of 223
    rudeney

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    That’s a great analogy! HR2x = Toyota and TiVo = Lexus. They are moslty the same thing, but they charge more to have that big “L” on the grill! By the way, the most disappointing vehicle we’ve owned in the last 20 years: Lexus.
     
  11. Sep 5, 2008 #191 of 223
    hdtvfan0001

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    Having had both...I respectfully disagree.

    In Europe, Lexus isn't even considered a luxury car....so its all in the eyes of the beholder.

    The are both different but similar.
     
  12. Sep 5, 2008 #192 of 223
    spartanstew

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    No offense, but I have to ask: People you know actually don't know they don't have a Tivo? Do they think their Toshiba TV is a Sony? Do they think their Croft and Barrow Khakis are Dockers? That just amazes me. I can't imagine knowing someone that wouldn't have knowledge of something they bought or know what brand it is. Especially after you told them. And then they get mad at you?

    bonscott: "Hey, that gelatin is not Jello"
    cletus: "I reckon it is"
    bonscott: "No, see, right on the box it says Kroger gelatin dessert. Jello is a brand name"
    cletus: "F-you, don't you be tellin' me my Jello ain't no Jello"
    bonscott: "OK, Ok, relax, my apologies"

    Seriously?
     
  13. Sep 6, 2008 #193 of 223
    loudo

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    I am a happy camper with the current HR2X format. Other than the double buffer of my previous TIVO HR20-250, I don't see anything that was better with the TIVO system. The current guide format is a lot better than the one we had on the HR10-250.

    But, I am open to any new technology and maybe TIVO has improved their technology and guide display since the HR10-250.

    I still would like to see OTA tuners back into the DirecTV units. They give us 4 HD/Digital channels, via satellite, and there are over 30 in my area that I have to buy an external unit to view. When space is a issue, I wouldn't mind paying more for the unit to have the OTA tuner built into the receiver.
     
  14. Sep 6, 2008 #194 of 223
    rudeney

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    It seems to me that the real issue us that TiVo's had DLB and the HR2x's don't. For those who don’t care that the HR3x lacks DLB, is there anything else about TiVo that would make you actually pay more for it over the HR2x?
     
  15. Sep 6, 2008 #195 of 223
    techrep

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    The Tivo Series3 and the Tivo HD receivers are quite a bit better than the HR10-250 and, the GUI has been "dolled up" a bit.

    A fully functional (or nearly so) MPEG4 HD DirecTV Tivo with OTA and 3 or 4 tuner capability would be awesome.
     
  16. Sep 6, 2008 #196 of 223
    DarinC

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    Yes. For ME, so far, there has been a big difference in reliability and stability between the two. Obviously, some have had a much better experience with the HR2x, so beyond that, I preferred the feel of the transport functions much more (FF, etc., seemed more responsive), TiVo never seemed to record things I've already seen like the HR2x (probably due to the 28 day rule), I miss suggestions (not everyone liked that, I did), I miss wishlists, I could view more channels at a time in the guide, I never had the problem where something didn't record as expected, and I couldn't find a logical reason why in the history, and probably some other things I can't think of right now. I also hope that some TiVo features that I never got to enjoy on my DirecTV TiVos make it to the new version, like MRV, programming from a PC, and probably more, don't remember what all they had.

    In short, I just worked the way I would expect it to, without many problems. It just worked, and provided relevant features.
     
  17. Sep 6, 2008 #197 of 223
    alexjb12

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    I do like tivo, but I think i like the HR2X a little more =)
     
  18. Sep 6, 2008 #198 of 223
    Thaedron

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    I had DirecTivo as my primary viewing solution, I've switched to HR2X DVRs and don't pay any more or less than I did with Tivo. I don't expect that I would have to pay any more or less with a future Tivo solution.
     
  19. Sep 6, 2008 #199 of 223
    Thaedron

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    There are a lot of people that have a very uninformed understanding of the features and/or products they actually have, especially when it comes to electronics / computers or most anything digital. This even can include college educated people with highly technical degrees like Electrical Engineering (I have a sister-in-law to prove it). Not to say that is the norm, but certainly part of the general population.

    I recall a lot of discussion about how many people bought HD sets that thought they had HD when they had no HD content or equipment capable of displaying HD.

    Tivo has become somewhat a generic term for DVR. I'm not surprised at all that someone might think they have a Tivo when in fact that have a DVR.
     
  20. Sep 6, 2008 #200 of 223
    spartanstew

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    Agreed, that has nothing to do with it.

    Agreed, again that has nothing to do with it.

    I'm not surprised either, but again that's not the point. Are you actually telling me that these college educated people would continue to think they had a tivo even after you explained to them that it was a brand name for a DVR? I don't think so. That they wouldn't understand the difference between a tivo and a DVR even after you explained it to them? Again, I don't think so. That they'd actually get mad at the discussion? Again, I don't think so. Unless they were retarded, they'd know the difference between a brand name and it's function after it was pointed out to them.
     
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