How to: Copy and Replace Internal Hard Drive

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by marty45714, Sep 25, 2007.

I have read the disclaimer and I understand that this process in NOT recommended

  1. YES - I agree I will not tamper with my leased equipment

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  2. NO - I agree to accept full financial responsibility for breaking my Customer Agreement

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  1. Dec 4, 2015 #701 of 767
    saoyshpt

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    P Smith,

    I will do a search for your thread, if you have a link and could provide it would be much appreciated. So you know which chip contains the RID? Nice! Assuming no other conflicts, that would be ideal, swap chips, and then just place the old HDD into the new unit and fire it up! I wonder if you would have to use the same (old) card or the new card that came with the new unit? Hmmm... And I wonder how that unit would show up to D*TV? Probably as the old HR24, correct?

    peds48,
    Yes, we are all aware that we are taking our lives into our own hands by tampering with our boxes, as I believe has been covered about 1000+ times in this thread and every other thread like this one on this site. What can I say, I am a rebel. And apparently not alone. Fact of the matter is: the D*TV tech that I talked to on the phone didn't even care. Well, he CARED. As in "...hmmm, I am not supposed to know about that..." but when I explained how I immediately open my units up and swap out the 350/500 GB HDDs for a new 2TB HDDs in ALL of my units his response was "...holy crap, that is a lot of storage space! What do you do with 6 TB?!?!...", and not: "...well, I am going to have to cancel your account and send the D*TV police to your location to lock you up in D*TV prison...". In fact, when he agreed to replace my admittedly opened and modified HR24 he marked it as "FedEx to customer" and not "install for customer". I even told him of my plan to immediately open it and put in the new 2TB HDD and he stuck his fingers in his ears and went "LA LA LA I AM NOT LISTENING", but he definitely did not ban me from being a customer or getting new equipment. Fact is, they are suprisingly cool with it if you are open and honest and not breaking and replacing their units willy nilly. It probably depends a lot on the tech that you get I am sure, but I rarely call D*TV for service and everytime that I have I have not hidden anything and they are always OK with it. $$$ > legalities apparently. They would rather have a regular committed paying customer who doesn't request service except when the equipment fails on its own accord and actually saves them money by doing his own swaps and installations.

    OK... climbing off the soapbox now, just an FYI, they are aware and they are not prosecuting. He actually seemed to be taking notes, like "so, what brand of drives do you use? how does it work out for you? isn't 6GB overwhelming? how do you find programs that you recorded at the bottom of the list?" Yeah, that last one is something that I wanted to address with D*TV, I have to page through literally hundreds of pages to reach something from waaaaay back. They need to add a "Search" or "Filter" or something to that damned listing, LOL...

    Thanks for all of your advice and input BTW. Even peds. That is what makes this site a gem!
     
  2. Dec 4, 2015 #702 of 767
    peds48

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    the CSR does not care, nor Do I. The ones who care you never get to talk to them which are the folks gets the receivers when you return them. Also, I have gotten MOD notices when talking about stuff that is not permitted on their site. So I won't talk about them.


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  3. Dec 5, 2015 #703 of 767
    inkahauts

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    It's not going to work. The things are encoded I believe in the program level since over the air recordings will work fine after transferring. Honestly I wouldn't personally hold out hope to keep anything recorded in a DVR forever. Just buy it or record it in 480p to your computer or dvd.

    And yeah, some of the system stuff is actually in the hard drives. A simple way to see this, notice that sorts searches is availed in a genie only after additional software is downloaded to the hard drive itself, it's not in the software that drives the basics of the DVR.

    And it's never the csrs you need to worry about. It's the guy at the service center that checks it when it gets back. I don't think they care about hard drives,but if they open it up And see you've messed with chips I'd bet you'd get a charge on your account without a word from anyone. Heck I doubt the guys checking them at the service center event ow if the unit was new or not when it was sent to you. But messed up chips, that's a bit of a bigger issue if they are soldered on weird or something. I'd never go there with a unit I didn't own if I where you. Hard drives, well you know the story... But chips? That is a whole other ball game...

    Out of curiosity what is it that you find so precious on that particular DVR anyway?
     
  4. Dec 5, 2015 #704 of 767
    peds48

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    Housewives out of somewhere?!?!... lol


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  5. palmgrower

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    HR34 2TB upgraded to HR44 4TB, no loss of recordings. Used 2 external thermaltake docks with a laptop. Slow but successful.
     
  6. peds48

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    so the recordings from the 34 play on the 44? That would be a first.


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  7. P Smith

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    good sign of future on same account swapping HDDs :up:
     
  8. palmgrower

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    I used gparted 3.7, followed instructions, completed in 12 hours


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  9. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    the point is you copied from one DVR to OTHER DVR; all such attempts failed before and we got so many posts about that outcome :(
     
  10. palmgrower

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  11. mocarob

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    Did this just really happen?? Will it work for other models DVR?
     
  12. inkahauts

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    Have you played back any or all the recordings yet? And where they over the air recordings or sat recordings. It'll copy them but it won't actually play back the recordings off satellite unless something changed in the last couple weeks.
     
  13. palmgrower

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    Yes, they are all playing
    Is this the first report of this? When did the not playing off satellite issue arise?
     
  14. mocarob

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    Did you use the same access card on both DVRs? I'm sure the others will elaborate more but recordings are matched with your access card.
     
  15. palmgrower

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    Yes, same access card
     
  16. tomspeer46

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    My experience is that the recordings are in the list, with the date and time recorded, and in a test today, using an External HDD, it even told me the Receiver it was recorded on. But you cannot play it. That has not changed on any software release.

    But, I never tried using the same access card. I didn't think that was possible. Hmmmm.
     
  17. WestDC

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    The only way That can done is a Tech would have to perform the upgrade from one receiver to another using his hand held device. -SO Maybe a Fish is hiding in the story somewhere?
     
  18. mocarob

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    Just called D. They told me I can upgrade to Genie & Tech would allow me to use my current access card. (external drive recordings would be intact)
    I didn't know that was possible. Is this new?
     
  19. peds48

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    Sorry, but that is not possible. If tech brings the receiver, they HAVE to use access card provided with the receiver, they can't (for inventory reasons) use another access card. If you want to use same access card is better to keep this transaction between you and DIRECTV.
     
  20. carl6

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

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    I don't think "the average user/customer" can move an access card from one receiver to another and have it work. I know that nobody prior to this thread has successfully moved recordings from one receiver to another and been able to play them. As a result, I seriously question what has actually happened with regard to what was posted here, and certainly look forward to more details if in fact this was done with success.

    As to calling and having a CSR tell you that can be done, I would not trust that information until we see more regarding this. Again, this is something that has not been supported (or even possible so far as I know) in the past.
     

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