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How To: Copy and Replace Internal Hard Drive

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by marty45714, Sep 25, 2007.

I know that If I open my HR20 DVR

  1. I will void the remaining warrany and will violate the lease agreement if I do not own it.

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  2. I am not going to open my HR20 DVR.

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  1. SepticDeath

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    I would just make the esata port, its pretty basic and even the nice ones that have a power source routed from the internal psu drive power plugs are under 8 bucks
    You realize that its a simple sata connector on one end that can plug into a port on your motherboard, and goes to a nice slot bracked that allows a external cable to connect at the bracket, eBay, maybe 3-4 dollars, or for even cheaper you can get a 36" sata cable and just run it from the motherboard outside the case and use whatever you have for powering up the drive. Just something nice to have lying around as well. I often backup to plain unmounted drives by simply plugging in power and sata at the back of the machine (no case, no psu, just a bare open drive) I then put it back in the static bag and in a drawer, you can even boot from it because its like its a internal drive when connected..

    just my 2cents
     
  2. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Expect up to five times increase of transferring time.
     
  3. MrKlaatu

    MrKlaatu Godfather

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    I can accept that, as long as it will work. Going to order a new eSATA drive.
     
  4. hoyty76

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    As a result of various problems I had to give up on my 1.5 TB external drive. This weekend I decided to ditch the eSATA on both my DVR's. On my HR20-700 I took my existing WD10EACS and moved it internal. Then on my HR21-100 I added a new WD10EACS since I had already lost all my recordings multiple times.

    Replacing the internal drive on the HR20 was not too much fun. There was about 6 different screws to remove internally. Two of which were behind the front panel. I feel sorry for the people that had to assemble these in the factory. The HR21 was almost a joy in comparison. It still had 4 screws but they were very accessible and easy to swap out.

    Now I have gotten rid of my two MX-1 hanging off the side of the DVR. Less cables and less clutter on the tv stand is always a plus.

    I was also impressed to find that DirecTV used the Seagate DB35.3 drives which are nice drives for DVR due to low noise.
     
  5. Richierich

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    Yes, no clutter with the external drive enclosure hanging around and it is QUIETER! I can't wait until the 2 TB hard drives come out. I will be upgrading all of my DVRs.
     
  6. gopherhockey

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    Just out of curiosity, why does the OP (directions) seem to indicate that replacement of an internal drive is the goal (mine too) yet it ends up with an eSATA connected to the unit. :confused: Did this somewhere along the lines migrate into a how to replace an internal drive with an external drive while copying data?
     
  7. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Since DTV DVRs cannot use both - int and ext HDD, the procedure is the same for replace to bigger disk for both types. Just keep in mind you can use only ONE disk.
     
  8. cameron_111

    cameron_111 New Member

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    This is a great question and with all the talk about voiding the warranty and creating all kinds of havoc when returning a leased unit I'm surprised there is so little on this thread on the subject. I have a HD DVR on order from DTV and have already purchased a 1.5 TB Seagate Barracuda drive for it. I'm weighing the options of going external SATA with an Antec MX-1 drive or just replacing the stock HD on day 1. I've been thinking of ways to remove & replace the seal -- softening the glue with acetone, melting it with a heat gun, etc. Has anyone out there ever been successful at this>
     
  9. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    'The seal' - I don't remember any seal in HR20 or HR21.
    Picture please !
     
  10. cameron_111

    cameron_111 New Member

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    No pictures since my unit has not been delivered yet but I saw one on an HR22 at Best Buy. It's a little piece of silver tape about 3/8" wide that says something like "breaking this seal voids warranty." It appears to be the kind of tape that comes off in little bitty pieces when you try to scrape it off with a fingernail or razor blade.
     
  11. houskamp

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    it will leave the words behind..
     
  12. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Where is the seal located ? Holding whole cover ? Or just a disk ?
    [See, a picture will tell everything ;)].
     
  13. Richierich

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    You do not want to do it unless you can accept the possibility that if Directv finds out when you send your box back in for replacement that they can bill you full value for that box.

    Will they do it? Probably not because they want to keep you as a customer. However it is a Disclaimer in case you get injured or shocked so I don't think they advise you doing it unless you know what you are doing and the risks of doing it such as replacing a drive in a PC.

    You can get shocked.
     
  14. houskamp

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    Right on the back top edge.. From the original 1st look: http://www.dbstalk.com/hr20/images/Small/08-backpanel.jpg



    see what a little searching can find? :grin:
     
  15. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Yeah, you got me here !

    Actually I remember it and some posts where ppl mentioned of not existence the label on some DVR. ;)
     
  16. cameron_111

    cameron_111 New Member

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    OK we all know what the seal is now, that DTV can technically charge you the value of the box and that you can get shocked if you don't know what you are doing. I've replaced HDs in 2 of my TIVOs and more computers than I care to remember - unplug the sucker, let all of the capacitors discharge and ground youself so static electricity doesn't fry something.

    Now, back to my original post, does anyone know how to get the pesky little thing off without damaging it?
     
  17. mudball

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    Does the PC used for the copying operation have to have an integrated SATA interface, or can you use one with a PCI SATA controller expansion board? I'm not seeing either drive when I boot with GParted...

    Any insight appreciated.
     
  18. mardig

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    Has anyone used this procedure to copy between models like from the HR-20 to the HR-22? Will it work.

    I tried it today, but made one mistake and I don't know if it was my mistake that caused it not to work or that it can't be done. Here is what I did.

    New HR22, put in new 1.5TB drive, recorded three shows. Took out drive and copied the HR20 partition to the HR22 partition using the latest xfsdump / xfsrestore procedure. Yes, I now realize since this is a file copy procedure that it left the old files on there.

    Here is what I got. Play list shows the three new shows and all the old shows as well. "All" the new shows play fine, "all" the old shows get message "searching for authorized content".

    So the question is: Is this because of my leaving files on the target drive or because this will not work between models or perhaps even between boxes?

    Any Ideas?
     
  19. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Posted a few times - will not play on OTHER DVR.
     
  20. Richierich

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    I was told by someone alot more knowledgeable than me that the unit's serial number is attached to each recording and is checked against the serial number of the DVR playing the recordings. You would somehow have to alter than serial number to be the same as the DVR that is now playing the recordings.
     
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