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How to get significantly viewed dma stations added

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by StephenJC, Feb 23, 2013.

  1. Mar 4, 2013 #81 of 202
    joshjr

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    This is not always the case. I think the networks that offer their channels to out of market DMA's as significantly viewed still want money for their channels. Maybe its not profitable in all areas. The biggest reason we probably got a few here was that at the time we did not have a CBS and this was one way to get one that was in state even at a cheaper rate. That being said, we were getting our DMA's ABC so I am not sure why they gave us that one.

    I imagine that some local stations add something into the new contracts but do not take some rep at DirecTV's 800 number at their word. There is no way they know the complexities of these kinds of issues. I imagine it is true that DirecTV does not want to offer all significantly viewed stations to all areas but that does not mean that it cant be done.
     
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    KyL416

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    Are you sure the person who explained it to you knew the difference between significantly viewed status vs importing some out of market stations? Can you find the line in the rules that say the stations can say no? The only thing I saw was that they have to notify them before they do it, nothing about requiring permission from the affiliate that serves your DMA.
     
  3. Mar 4, 2013 #83 of 202
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    I got a hold of both GMs today from WNBC, and WABC. They told me the same thing Directv told me and what the GM from Channel 12 Binghamton.

    They have contracts to follow!
     
  4. Mar 4, 2013 #84 of 202
    joshjr

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    Same DMA does not mean anything. Significantly Viewed goes by county. I believe I am in the only county in Oklahoma that is in the Joplin/Pittsburg (Kansas & Missouri) DMA. I highly doubt the Tulsa DMA stations are considered significantly viewed with any other county in the Joplin/Pittsburg DMA.

    There was little upside for DirecTV to give my small county any Tulsa stations and yet I have two and am working for more. It makes more sense when its alot of counties in a DMA that would benefit but that does not always seem to be the case for DirecTV to add them.
     
  5. Mar 4, 2013 #85 of 202
    joshjr

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    I would have to look it up but I am pretty sure the government stepped in for Hartford some time ago for them to get theirs. The rest of us get to bite scratch and claw to see if we can get them.
     
  6. Mar 4, 2013 #86 of 202
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    Read this!

    http://www.fcc.gov/guides/service-op...te-subscribers


    Reception of “Significantly-Viewed” Stations

    If you subscribe to local-into-local service and don’t qualify as an “unserved household,” you may be eligible to receive some distant stations if those stations are considered “significantly-viewed.” Your satellite TV company decides whether and which significantly-viewed stations to offer. You must be subscribing to local-into-local service to be eligible to receive significantly-viewed stations. Check with your satellite TV company to see if you qualify and what stations are on the significantly-viewed list for your area.
     
  7. Mar 4, 2013 #87 of 202
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    And Read this!
     
  8. Mar 4, 2013 #88 of 202
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    I see nothing there about the local affiliates being able to say no to them importing a neighboring affiliate on the list.
     
  9. Mar 4, 2013 #89 of 202
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    I think he is more talking about the local affiliates contract with the provider. it may or may not be the case. The law does not appear to say anything about it. There is a lot more upside for a provider to offer your DMA's locals then to tick them off over adding significantly viewed stations. Its a gamble guys. It will work for some and not for others. I do not have the same attitude as some though and dont just take people that dont know what they are talking about at their word. I know its bizarre for affiliates to have someone who is just interested in tv that does not work for anyone that matters to know this stuff but that is the case. I dont mind educating them. It cant hurt.
     
  10. Mar 4, 2013 #90 of 202
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    Sure they can so no! If they are out of Market.

    Why do you think Waiver have to be approved?;)
     
  11. Mar 4, 2013 #91 of 202
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    What you claim can be done, can take years, Has TAKEN YEARS, and most DMA's with satellite tv do not have Neighboring or significantly viewed locals.

    You need to call and complain to your state representative to change these rules and have already been there and done that!.
     
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    If all this stuff you two are claiming is true then I guess DirecTV is breaking the law by giving me out of market stations. Feel free not to ask me for help if you think I am wrong. I have been studying this stuff for years. To each their own. I want to help people who want it. If you dont want my help thats fine. You just keep accepting minimum wage DirecTV reps at the 800 number at face value and I will keep working with the people that matter on this stuff.

    Believe me, I have spoken with all many many people on this stuff. From the FCC, Neilson Media Company, DirecTV, Dish Network, Cable Co's, local affiliates, out of market DMA's, watched numerous congressional hearings, my Congressman, my Senator, etc.
     
  13. Mar 4, 2013 #93 of 202
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    There is no waiver process for Significantly Viewed.
     
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    That's only for DNS stations. Significantly Viewed stations are under different rules and do not require waviers, if DirecTV were to add them they would just appear as part of the locals for everyone in that county. No individual waviers are needed.

    Please point out where in the rules you see that the local stations can say no to stations on the Significantly viewed lists.
     
  15. Mar 4, 2013 #95 of 202
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    It states clearly Directv can choose whether to carry them or not. Got nothing to do with breaking the law.

    And congrats on getting them turned on for your DMA, My guess is Directv already had and chose to carry them.

    Tell me who your dealing with? you are the one running around claimng Directv and the network HAVE TO give you these channels. When it clearly says they don't. I talked to 3 GMs from 3 Different Networks. They all said the same thing. They can't force Directv to lite them up when they have contracts with other networks.


    So who do I speak with at Directv?
     
  16. Mar 4, 2013 #96 of 202
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    Not only that, if you enter my zip into the DirecTV local channel tool, it wont show that they offer the two Tulsa stations with the rest of the locals offered. I am pretty sure that those stations are also on a different satellite but at this point I dont care. I am getting the big 4 from my DMA and 2 from instate much more desired affiliates with hopefully more to follow.
     
  17. Mar 4, 2013 #97 of 202
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    I am not claiming anything, Its right from the FCC link above. Did you read it?
     
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    OK well let me ask you a question. Where are my Significantly viewed channels they, Why don't I have them since its so cut and dry?
     
  19. Mar 4, 2013 #99 of 202
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    I think the main locals tool just offers the market listing, there's a seperate lookup tool for neighboring locals:
    http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/packProg/svLocalChannels.jsp?assetId=1200076
     
  20. Mar 4, 2013 #100 of 202
    damondlt

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    Really again:rolleyes:


    Your satellite TV company decides whether and which significantly-viewed stations to offer.
     

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