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How to get significantly viewed dma stations added

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by StephenJC, Feb 23, 2013.

  1. Mar 4, 2013 #121 of 202
    joshjr

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    It could just be if its in the contracts. Remember as previously stated, I am sure the GM at the CBS in my DMA would not allow DirecTV to give us the Tulsa CBS if he could stop it. Maybe its not in his current contract and that is why we are getting the Significantly Viewed station for now.
     
  2. Mar 4, 2013 #122 of 202
    joshjr

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    I found a section of the article a few days ago that said the significantly viewed were treated differently. I will try to track it down again later.
     
  3. Mar 4, 2013 #123 of 202
    damondlt

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    I believe you. Thats not what I said show me about. Show me where the Rules for Significanly viewed channels are different then DNS.


    Also if your Tulsa ABC didn't approve of the other ABC, it would not be in your line up.
     
  4. Mar 4, 2013 #124 of 202
    KyL416

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    There's no such thing as a cable DMA vs Satellite DMA. DMA's are set by Nielsen and are universal to satelite, cable and OTA. They consider Pike county as part of the NYC DMA.
     
  5. Mar 4, 2013 #125 of 202
    joshjr

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    Never said it was. I said it was the best shot at getting it done. The two best people to speak with on this are the affiliates GM and their Chief Engineer. They are the ones that are most capable of dealing with this.
     
  6. Mar 4, 2013 #126 of 202
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    THANK YOU!!!!! This is Exactly what I was told by Directv , and 3 General Managers from 3 Different Networks.
     
  7. Mar 4, 2013 #127 of 202
    joshjr

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    I will find the proof later (about to leave work). As for the other part, I am not in the Tulsa DMA. I am in the Pittsburg/Joplin DMA and they would NEVER EVER approve of us getting Tulsa. I am 100% confident they would stop it if they could. Maybe it will happen in a few years when their current agreement runs out but until that day comes if ever , I am gonna enjoy it.
     
  8. Mar 4, 2013 #128 of 202
    joshjr

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    I am happy you are happy about this. No one ever said they had to carry these stations. We simply said it was an option and if you want them, get your hands dirty and try like I did.
     
  9. Mar 4, 2013 #129 of 202
    Mike Bertelson

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    On page one I linked to both the list and the law.

    Everyone should download both the pdfs and then there'll be no question.

    Mike
     
  10. Mar 4, 2013 #130 of 202
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    Pike county PA is a PA market on Blue ridge Cable. Dispute all you want.

    They are served with Scranton Wilkes Barre locals.

    Dish and Directv are NY locals only!
     
  11. Mar 4, 2013 #131 of 202
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    Its not an option if Networks don't agree to a deal with each other. Got nothing to do with getting hands dirty.
     
  12. Mar 4, 2013 #132 of 202
    joshjr

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    Page 9. See bold below. I think this spells it out pretty good. Have a great evening gentlemen.

    http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-11-1454A1.pdf

    15.
    The 2004 Satellite Home Viewer Extension and Reauthorization Act of 2004 (SHVERA) expanded the statutory copyright license to allow satellite carriers to carry significantly viewed stations, which are treated as local stations with respect to a particular satellite community in another market, thus, allowing them to be carried by the satellite carrier in that community in the other market. Satellite carriers are not required to carry out of market significantly viewed stations. If they do carry such significantly viewed stations, retransmission consent is required. STELA reauthorizes the statutory copyright license for satellite carriage of significantly viewed stations and moves that license from the
    distant signal statutory copyright license provisions in 17 U.S.C. Section 119(a)(3) to the local signal statutory copyright license provisions in 17 U.S.C. Section 122(a)(2).
    By so doing, Congress now defines significantly viewed signals as another type of local signal, rather than as an exception to distant signals, and consequently, the significantly viewed signal license does not expire on December 31, 2014, when the distant signal license is set to expire. Section 122(a)(2) explicitly limits significantly viewed to the rules as adopted by the Commission as of April 15, 1976. Satellite carriers are required to provide notice to local stations before they commence carriage of significantly viewed stations. This notice requirement does not apply to cable systems carriage of significantly viewed stations. There are no market modification provisions regarding satellite carriers similar to those for cable operators.
     
  13. Mar 4, 2013 #133 of 202
    damondlt

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    You don't read do you!



    Look!
    Satellite carriers are not required to carry out of market significantly viewed stations. If they do carry such significantly viewed stations, retransmission consent is required.


    Thats means they STILL NEED PERMISSION!
     
  14. Mar 4, 2013 #134 of 202
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    There is no such thing as the "PA DMA", the DMAs are set by Nielsen, there's Scranton/Wilkes-Barre and NYC. Pike County is part of the NYC DMA, which is why the Blue Ridge systems in that county have additional NYC market stations like WABC, WNET, WTBY and WMBC and they never dropped WNYW on the systems that originate in that county. Some of the areas also don't get WSWB or WQMY.

    Take a look at any NYC news broadcast, Pike is the only PA county outlined on the weather map and their weather alerts appear on severe weather tickers.
     
  15. Mar 4, 2013 #135 of 202
    joshjr

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    LMAO, I see why you are confused now. The Greement you speak of, is with the significantly viewed station NOT the in DMA affiliate!
     
  16. Mar 4, 2013 #136 of 202
    damondlt

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    Ok not disputing that , But Blue Ridge Cable has the rights for Pike county PA they have a Huge satellite field there.


    This is also Pike couny Pa in Hawley
     
  17. Mar 4, 2013 #137 of 202
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    And Pike county PA is Also Highlighted on every scranton Wilkesbarre weather too.
     
  18. Mar 4, 2013 #138 of 202
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    I'm not confused at all, No permission , No channel. Cut and Dry!

    If Directv had permission it would be on , just like in your case.
     
  19. Mar 4, 2013 #139 of 202
    KyL416

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    The also highlight portions of the Elmira (Tioga), Philly (Northampton) and Altoona (Centre county) markets on their maps too. They take advantage of their expanded cable coverage and send reporters to the areas the neighboring DMAs ignore, but in Nielsen's eyes Pike is part of the NYC DMA.
     
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    There's currently hearings for the renewal of it going on. You should take a look at some of the articles at Broadcasting and Cable and Multichannel news covering it. One of the things being brought up is the lack of progress on the rollout of significantly viewed stations, so you might get some answers when the next round of hearings start in about two weeks. Some early testimony claims the spot beam coverage is preventing it, but that's no excuse here since the NYC big 4 are on a Conus beam and we get 90s on the spotbeams used by Philly's locals.
     

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