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HR-34 with AM21 observation

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by dod1450, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. dod1450

    dod1450 Legend

    Dec 16, 2009
    Today I just had my HR-34 installed it was replacing my HR-24. What I had noticed with the HR-34 and AM-21.

    1) AM-21 power blue LED does not turn off when the HR-34 turn off
    With the Hr-24 the blue LED on the AM-21 does turn off
    2) OTA channels I now get all channels that are available, which was not available with the HR-24, some of the channels that are display on the guide shows "regular programming" , no channel info.

    3) The tech did a force download upgrade, but it did not load the version that has Pandora and power save.
  2. ndole

    ndole Problem Solver

    Aug 26, 2009
    Pandora and power save are coming soon ;)
  3. CCarncross

    CCarncross Hall Of Fame

    Jul 19, 2005
    Those are all correct currently for how the HR34 works
  4. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2006
    1. Known issue
    2. The HR34 scans for OTA channels, the HR24 does not.
    3. Those features are not available on the HR34 yet.
  5. dpeters11

    dpeters11 Hall Of Fame

    May 30, 2007
    Soon can be relative. We don't know if it will be a couple of weeks, or months.
  6. dettxw

    dettxw MRVing

    Nov 21, 2007
    Choctaw, OK
    One minor clarification, the HR34 will scan for locals with the latest version of the AM21 the AM21N, which is what I'd expect to be provided for a new install or a new hardware accessory order from DirecTV. My original AM21 won't scan so it's installed on the HR24. The scan function isn't a big deal around here, but important to those who want channels not in the Tribune guide data (e.g. Canadian stations).
  7. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2006
    It scans with my original AM21.
  8. dettxw

    dettxw MRVing

    Nov 21, 2007
    Choctaw, OK
    I was going by my own past experience and remembrance of old posts such as these:

    Maybe the code has changed or something. Looks like a good retesting opportunity when the NBA finals aren't on.
  9. Marlin Guy

    Marlin Guy Hall Of Fame

    Apr 8, 2009
    PM sent to explain winking.
  10. NR4P

    NR4P Dad

    Jan 15, 2007
    Sunny Florida
    My HR34 has an AM21 connected and it shows all channels in the area.

    On second thought, maybe it was the AM21N originally connected, it scanned all, then I swapped them and now the AM21/HR34 combo gets the additional channels?

    Dang, I just gave myself a weekend project to sort this out.
  11. HoTat2

    HoTat2 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 16, 2005
    Yes, the AM21 and AM21N are identical electronically outside of the AM21N possibly having later generation or newer tuner chips and an insulating cap for the unused AC pigtail when used with the H25 receiver.
  12. Weller

    Weller Cool Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    Excuse my ignorance, but what is an AM21???
  13. bobvick1983

    bobvick1983 Godfather

    Mar 21, 2007
    NW Alabama
    My HR34 and AM21 had been working well since I got the HR34 in December. One day last week however, the HR34 began to report that the OTA tuner had been lost. Thinking it was a problem with my antenna, I connected the lead that was hooked to the AM21 directly to my TV set. The TV's tuner worked fine and brought in all of the channels that the AM21/HR34 were bringing in and more. Then I thought perhaps that the AM21 had went bad, so I went and got my AM21N that I was using with one of my HR24's, I still had the same problem with the HR34/AM21N. I then decided to do a master reset on the HR34 (clear and erase everything) even after doing this, the HR34 refuses to recognize either the AM21 or the AM21N, when both of those tuners work with all of my HR24's. I called DirecTV about the issue, and was eventually referred to the case management department. I explained the problem to them, and they informed me that it was more than likely a problem with the HR34, but they were not allowed to just send out a HR34 replacement, that they would have to send a technician with one. So, they are supposed to send out a tech on Friday to take a look. I told them to make sure that he had another HR34, I hope he does, otherwise it is a lost trip for him, and a wasted afternoon leaving work early for me.
  14. carl6

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

    Nov 15, 2005
    Seattle, WA
    An external box you connect to an HD receiver or DVR to add off-air stations. If you have local stations that DirecTV does not carry, an AM21 will let you get them, incorporate them into your guide, and record them with a DVR.
  15. dod1450

    dod1450 Legend

    Dec 16, 2009
    Let us know what you find out.

    To all, Why is Directv saying that the AM21 and/or AM21N is not supported on the HR34? What makes it so hard on having existing external hardware , that they sell, be supported for all receivers? I think someone in charge for QA and Design phase on new products needs to be fired.
  16. RAD

    RAD Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2002
    It's the HR34 that determines if an AM21/AM21N does the scanning, not the AM21/AM21N. I was an early tested for the HR34 and I tested both the AM21 and AM21N for scanning and both do it.
  17. RAD

    RAD Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2002
    I missed that, who/where did it say the HR34 doesn't support the AM21/AM21N?
  18. jdspencer

    jdspencer Hall Of Fame

    Nov 7, 2003
    So what is preventing a software update to the HR24 to allow the AM21 to scan?
  19. Barry in Conyers

    Barry in Conyers Godfather

    Jan 14, 2008
    According to DirecTV, the AM21 and HR34 are compatible.

    From page 4 of the AM21 OFF AIR TUNER Manual available at http://www.directv.com/learn/pdf/AM21_GuideBW_Web_092110.pdf:

    Note: The following DIRECTV® Receiver models are
    compatible with the USB Off-Air Tuner: DIRECTV Plus®
    HD DVR (models HR21 and above, DIRECTV Plus® DVR
    (R22 model only), DIRECTV® HD (models H21 and above) or
    DIRECTV® Home Media Center.
  20. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2006
    That doesn't say the HR34 isn't supported. It says "models HR21 and above" and an HR34 is clearly above an HR21. Not to mention "DIRECTV Home Media Center" is the HR34.

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