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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by dobok, Jul 2, 2013.

  1. Jul 2, 2013 #1 of 25

    dobok Mentor

    Feb 7, 2010
    Just wondering out loud ---What is the next (NEW) Dvr that D is working on or is starting to work on. Just wondering!!! Whats next for US !!!!
  2. Jul 2, 2013 #2 of 25

    jimmie57 Hall Of Fame

    Jun 26, 2010
    Texas City, TX
    This is strictly a guess.
    In the game of one upmanship that businesses play I would think that the next one would have 8 tuners.
    Why, well, the fact that the SWM LNB handles 8 tuners, why wouldn't the receiver ?
    Along with that, possibly wireless transmission to the sets connected to it.
  3. Jul 2, 2013 #3 of 25

    CCarncross Hall Of Fame

    Jul 19, 2005
    Is the HR44 not enough for the next few months? Its just becoming available nationally, so it is brand spankin new for most.
  4. Jul 2, 2013 #4 of 25

    rmmccann AllStar

    Apr 16, 2012
    ND, USA
    An 8 tuner DVR sounds nice, but the thing that would shy me away from it would be the single point of failure for my TV services. Assuming you have an 8 tuner DVR and all "clients" you'd be DOA if the main box failed.
  5. Jul 2, 2013 #5 of 25

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    Dec 2, 2010
    Probably some new software that'll allow existing STBs to do more, hopefully faster. And possibly even smaller STB's, wireless, though that is to me a marketing gimmick, necessary to offset others touting their stuff.

    If you're holding off committing due to the "next great thing" as so many do with computers, don't wait. This is a good time to get a Genie!
  6. Jul 2, 2013 #6 of 25

    TomCat Broadcast Engineer

    Aug 31, 2002
    Who can disagree with that?

    Distributed failure potential is the hallmark of good security. This is why I see the whole house DVR as a sham; it trades the false front of potential convenience for unneeded added complexity and added problems as well as a single potential point of failure.

    And if you think DBS companies are bringing us this because it is what customers want and is somehow better, think again, sheeple. They are doing it for the exact same reason they went to SWM (another questionable technology we didn't need) which is to decrease the infrastructure and to save them money, as they simultaneously raise our rates with the other hand. It always will come down to cash when dealing with conglomerate overlords, and never the altruism of providing us with whiz-bang new toys out of the goodness of their hearts. Wake-y, wake-y.

    If you asked me if I would rather have an 8 TB array connected to a 8-tuner server that has to distribute video over a home network or would I rather have four 2 TB DVRs I don't have to think twice about the answer. As a matter of fact that is exactly what I have. I can accept the inconvenience of double-recording everything that is important to me and not having an integrated playlist very easily over the horrors I see reported on these forums. It also means I have four separate independent microprocessors working on recording, indexing, and playing back my content, rather than one.

    I've lost 4 media HDDs and/or DVRs in about 4 years, which is probably (unfortunately for me) well over the average, yet I've never lost or missed a program. There is a term for that: a proven system that works.
  7. Jul 2, 2013 #7 of 25

    peds48 Genius.

    Jan 10, 2008
    And I always thought they changed to SWM to make our jobs (installers) easier :rotfl:
  8. Jul 3, 2013 #8 of 25

    dpeters11 Hall Of Fame

    May 30, 2007
    And customers likely wouldn't want to have 5 coax inputs on a Genie.
  9. Jul 3, 2013 #9 of 25

    mrdobolina AllStar

    Aug 28, 2006
    A Mile High
    I'm thinking that DirecTV will develop a solution to the "single point of failure" prior to releasing an 8 tuner DVR. SSD? Some sort of Cloud backup/storage? Swappable EHD tied to account? Now, I don't think even DTV's definition of "soon" applies here, but perhaps this is the next "service/feature" that will be released prior to a next gen DVR.
  10. Bill Broderick

    Bill Broderick Icon

    Aug 25, 2006
    Long Island
    I think that the big advantage of SWM for DirecTV was that it opened their market to people who's homes were already pre-wired for cable, with a single coax to each TV location. These people already had DVR's from the cable company (using he single coax). They weren't about to convert to DirecTV and lose the two tuner DVR capability that they already had.
  11. unixguru

    unixguru Godfather

    Jul 9, 2007
    They need to slow down hardware releases further. I can see an HR24 replacement that will have an external power supply (since disk and power supply are primary failure modes). Then what? What major hardware improvements are really needed (before, ugh, 4K!)? A two-disk RAID1 external disk enclosure would be nice - although unnecessary if they just made software able to mirror series and recordings across multiple DVRs.

    In my opinion, they should put less money into hardware going forward and more money into software. There are so many things that they could do better - to greatly improve the hardware we already have.
  12. jdspencer

    jdspencer Hall Of Fame

    Nov 7, 2003
    I couldn't agree more! I have two HR2x units connected to a legacy 5LNB and also to my network using ethernet.
    I have had no problems with this setup and don't expect to change anything until I'm forced to.
    What would be nice is to have the capability to schedule programs from either HR to the other one.
  13. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    And yet, you've called my system "clunky". Change your mind? You seem to be agreeing with me now. Aside from that, a very good, realistic post.

  14. Drucifer

    Drucifer Well-Known Member

    Feb 12, 2009
    NY Hudson...
    The weak link in current HRs are their HDDs. So look for another storage method.
  15. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    True, in a box using only the internal drive. Add an external HDD and the device holding the external HDD becomes the weak link.

  16. HoTat2

    HoTat2 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 16, 2005
    Agree with most of TomCat's post here as well;

    Except for his criticism of SWiM technology which I really feel worked out way better for both DIRECTV and customers over legacy.

    No way do I miss having to run two lines to each DVR with BBCs on their ends, not to mention making the development of DECA (MoCA) impossible and have to rely on hit, miss, or so-so performance of home ethernet networking for MRV service.
  17. ticmxman

    ticmxman Legend

    Aug 27, 2007
    Yep TomCat is 100% correct, there is no way I would have only one dvr such as the genie and clients. Genie fails and your viewing and recordings are gone.
  18. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    I had ten HRs on Ethernet before the DECA was available and I couldn't hold that many for very long. DECA didn't completely solve that problem, I still have issues, but it's simply much better than Ethernet. One of these days I have to have some techs out to parallel my DECA system, right now it is cascaded. I'm having a new roof installed the end of July and that would be a good time to have the system paralleled.

  19. dennisj00

    dennisj00 Hall Of Fame

    Sep 27, 2007
    Lake Norman, NC
  20. HoTat2

    HoTat2 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 16, 2005

    Perhaps I should somewhat reword my earlier statement of what i was trying to say as ....


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