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HR20: 0x120 - Issues

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Earl Bonovich, Feb 1, 2007.

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  1. Feb 1, 2007 #81 of 419

    Satster AllStar

    Oct 27, 2006
    I had this exact issue on the very first recording I made the first day that I received my HR20 back in October. It has recurred quite frequently. I wonder what D* means when they say they improved stability on a a given release. It's such a vague statement. Frankly I have not noticed any improvement in reliability in the 3+ months I have owned it. The running joke in our household is that the HR20 is actually a Cylon.
  2. Feb 1, 2007 #82 of 419

    airwolfcat Cool Member

    Jan 21, 2007
    I downloaded 120 during the test window for one HR20, but left my other on 11b. The only issue I had seen with 11F or 120 before tonight had been reported by many on the other thread - picture freezes when rewinding and some pixelation on local channels (not OTA and not on non-local)

    Tonight with the automatic download on the other TV I experienced 2 issues:
    - picture frozen on NBC local news (live, no recording, rewind etc involved). Problem fixed with channel changes

    - very bad pixelation on local channels, seems to be all of them, but worst was for Grey's Anatomy tonight. Sound ok, but picture often unwatchable but would correct itself.
  3. Feb 1, 2007 #83 of 419

    rgc1042 Cool Member

    Dec 13, 2006
    Forced 120 Mon. night. Recorded Leno Tue. on HD NBC (mpeg 4). Would not play back when I tried Wed. night. Brings up timebar at 00 but no key will get it to move (i.e. FF, 30 sec skip,etc). Occasionaly playing with the remote has allowed me to get to the first tick mark and then back up. Not this time.
    Today my wife recorded one of her soaps SD OTA channel 7, Los Angeles. Also won't play back. Tried same as above, no effect. Thought we might have it this time, maybe version 1200 ?:rolleyes:
  4. Feb 1, 2007 #84 of 419

    Satster AllStar

    Oct 27, 2006
    The inability to do a 3 hr (or anything less than 6hr) manual timer record on an NHL Center Ice game (or probably any sports season package) persists on 120. I suspect the problem has something to do with the way access permissions are handled in the system. If the game has already begun, a manual timer works. For example, if a game started at 6 pm and it is now 6:05 pm, I can schedule a recording from 6:07 to 9:00 pm and the HR20 will record it. If I schedule the recording before the game starts (and I have tried this with several variations on the start time such as 5:55, 6:05, even a short 2 min recording, followed by a 1 min break and a 2:57 recording), the manual recording will give a black screen and the time bar will not advance. Hitting FF displays "1" under the arrow, hitting it again does not result in "2" being displayed.

    [I should also add that my daily manual timers of regular channels are reliable.]

    I believe this is a very systematic problem, and I would hope that the D* software team would prioritize the resolution of this predictable failure by focusing on the specific scenario described above, rather than treating it as part of generic stability issues, which may be harder to track down.

    Earl, here is a question: Are the programmers in the US? Do they have their own HR20 boxes at home? Do they have access to all the D* programming? Or are they somewhere in India or China, unable to experience for themselves the horror of their creation in a real world environment? In this day and age of outsourcing, I think it's a fair question.
  5. Feb 1, 2007 #85 of 419

    armophob Difficulty Concen........

    Nov 13, 2006
    Fort Pierce, FL
    I am getting a bit frustrated with this version and the freeze framing also. Rewind and fast forward are "sticky". I went to times 4 rewind and the image never changed as the progress bar clicked backwards. It acts different every time I use it.
  6. Feb 1, 2007 #86 of 419

    delfuego Cool Member

    Nov 19, 2006
    For the first time in a month or so, I had a scheduled recording cancelled this evening -- I have no idea what happened, but it didn't record, and it now shows up in the History list as cancelled. I'm on 0x120 as of around 4:30 AM today.

    This is a replacement box that started its life in my house a week ago; it replaced a buggy box that was blackscreening all the time. I've now about had it with the entire HR20 experience...
  7. Feb 1, 2007 #87 of 419

    armophob Difficulty Concen........

    Nov 13, 2006
    Fort Pierce, FL
    Oh yea, I get pinky alot more now also.
  8. Feb 1, 2007 #88 of 419

    ktabel01 Legend

    Aug 19, 2006
    Getting tired of this box's poor poor OTA tuners. Besides not getting an entire channel, CBS, other channels are constantly showing pixellation and dropouts on audio. Tonight, all NBC shows showed this and were just worthless, despite flawless reception on the TV tuner. Heck, even watching live on the HR 20 there were minimal problems, but the recordings, poor. This is unchanged now over every OTA update.
  9. Feb 2, 2007 #89 of 419

    elas123 Legend

    Dec 6, 2006
    on 120, mine is getting worse instead of better. my livingroom reciever never gave me this much trouble but with this release i am rebooting everyday cause it black screening on me when trying to play back stuff. im having 2-3 blacks a day now. i never had them this much maybe 1 every 2 weeks but not everyday. im not really that pissed though cause it doing it to its mostly doing it to repeat show we tape like according to jim at 5:30 didnt play but the 11:30 one did, same channel. Yesterday the lvingroom one missed my wifes one life to live soap and she was PISSED,but it taped downstairs in the bedroom so I was saved. i was going to go back to 11f but 120 went national so oh well. I cant wait for a another release.
  10. Feb 2, 2007 #90 of 419
    Dash Power

    Dash Power Cool Member

    Sep 15, 2006
    I am getting no local high def in Sacramento. Have tried everything recommended and no luck. Only getting 3 transponders on the 110 signal.

  11. Feb 2, 2007 #91 of 419

    gcisko I am Iron Man!

    Sep 27, 2006
    This is my first BSOD with 120. I came home. Turned the unit on and wham. Nothing except black. I hit the list button and for a moment it gave me the playlist. But then no buttons were responsive.

    RBR fixed everything of course. Except the constant NBC audio dropouts I have had since day 1 in september '06. I switched to OTA 5-1 to see leno, but this is really getting old.
  12. Feb 2, 2007 #92 of 419

    armophob Difficulty Concen........

    Nov 13, 2006
    Fort Pierce, FL
    reset, reset, reset If that don't work, unplug, unplug, unplug
  13. Feb 2, 2007 #93 of 419

    armophob Difficulty Concen........

    Nov 13, 2006
    Fort Pierce, FL
    Hey Earl; Any chance in a limited window to go back to x11b?
  14. Feb 2, 2007 #94 of 419

    runopenloop AllStar

    Jun 27, 2006
    Had an exact repeat of two weeks ago.

    2 Sat-based locals HD recordings at once:
    7pm - 8pm Ugly Betty
    7pm - 7:30pm My Name is Earl
    7:30pm -8pm The office​

    Both Earl and The Office playback as black screens. No amount of trick play will get them to play. Earl is stalled at the beginning, 0:00. The Office is stalled at the beginning, but shows 0:-29. This is the exact same thing that happened two weeks ago.

    I'm wondering if I can reproduce this by creating a similar scenario with 3 shows. Black screen recordings for me have always been on HD. I wonder if fact that one show was 720 and the others 1080 has an impact and should be reflected in a test...

    I forgot to set up a season pass for The Office on my SAT T60. So, I guess I'll be buying The Office on iTunes again.:(
  15. Feb 2, 2007 #95 of 419

    TheMoose Icon

    Jan 20, 2006
    I had my first problem with 120 today, I saw some tearing in the guide but the biggest problem is it failed to record CSI!
    When I checked the to do list when CSI was on it said it was recording but didn't & It's almost midnight & CSI is still on the to do list.
    I'll probably do a RBR to get it off the to do list.
    CSI was the only show not recorded tonight, I recorded shows on both HD OTA & regular sat channels like TLC.
  16. Feb 2, 2007 #96 of 419

    packfan909 Icon

    Oct 6, 2006
    New Issue: Selecting another song from Music and Photos while another is playing causes error "Can't Access Media." Current song continues but no ability to stop the song or navigate to another track. Navigation goes back to the television and TV audio returns once the song is finished.

    I am running 0x120 with Networking enabled via Buffalo Wireless Bridge. XP Media Center Edition running TVersity Media Server.

    Workaround is to stop the current song and then navigate to new music.
  17. Feb 2, 2007 #97 of 419
    forum junkie

    forum junkie AllStar

    Sep 9, 2004
    well 0x120 hasn't brought my OTA signals back up to the levels of 10b and now I can't have 10b back so it hasn't cured whatever changed.
  18. Feb 2, 2007 #98 of 419
    Marcus S

    Marcus S Icon

    Apr 23, 2002
    I had heard rumors that support for this box was out sourced, well it must be true. No engineer in the US could be this incompetent to introduce this amount of failure.


    Plaintive: My HR20 does not record my shows anymore and the ones that do record are intermittent with frequent skips, audio drops, blank screen, and freezes.

    *D: Where your succesfully able to schedule the recording?

    Plaintive: Yes, but I could'nt play it later.

    *D: There is nothing in the users manual that states specifically that you can actually play back a recording unless it's CSPAN, PBS, home shopping, religion, or community access. By the way where increasing your rates by 4% in Mar and dropping several channels in the lower tiers. Where also dropping support for this DVR because we have to many issues we can't figure out. For $100 you can get on the waiting list for the next gen HD-DVR product. - Oh that would be Dish, my bad.

    Judge: Ruling in favor of DirecTV.

    DirecTV = bi-monthly fixes
    Dish = 6 mo fixes

    *D Tivo? The last upgrade was as succesful as Apple moving to Intel Tiger and introducing Boot Camp to support Windows XP.
  19. Feb 2, 2007 #99 of 419

    TDooley Cool Member

    Jan 10, 2007
    First instance of video / audio dropout. Downloaded 0120 last night, no RBR or power on/off since.

    Watching CBS local affiliate - 5 / KPIX HD feed, also recording same program.

    One major screen breakup / blackout - several frames, concurrent with major audio breakup - severe pop / click / scratch of duration less than 1 second.
  20. Feb 2, 2007 #100 of 419
    Earl Bonovich

    Earl Bonovich Lifetime Achiever

    Nov 15, 2005
    No, there will not be a chance to go back to 0x11b
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