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HR20-100 - Does 3 LNA Dish Need BBC?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Phredi, Oct 17, 2007.

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  1. Phredi

    Phredi New Member

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    Hi all,

    I am a bit new to the AVC HD receivers and this BBC thing, but I figured someone would have the short answer to this.

    My current set up is the HR10 connected through a multi switch to a 3 LNA dish.

    I removed the HR10 and placed my 'new' HR20 in its place to see what it would do. It came up ok but never got satellite lock. I set the dish type to 3 LNA in the setting menu but nothing on the sat signal strength meters.

    Do I need to use one of the BBC devices to see the 'old' satellites, or just for the 'new' ones?

    Is there any reason that an HR20 will not see signal on the same cables where an HR10 gets good reception?

    Thanks in advance for any insight...
     
  2. Koz

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    BBCs are just for the new sats. You shouldn't need them on a 3 LNB setup.
     
  3. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

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    You should be getting good signal strength. Are you saying you get all zeroes on 101 satellite?
     
  4. Phredi

    Phredi New Member

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    Yeah, not a peep.

    It is all very strange - I think this box has some issues... :(

    I will try some other things like 'round dish' mode.

    I figured I would see if anyone knew of something that I was obviously doing wrong...

    Thanks!
     
  5. Stuart Sweet

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    If you're hooked up properly, and your HR10 is getting good signal, I can see it being a hardware problem.
     
  6. veryoldschool

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    Unless it's connected to either the remote RF connector or the OTA connector [I've managed to do both].
     
  7. azarby

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    How many input cables are you using? If you are using only one, it must be to tuner one. Tuner two will not activate unless tuner one is active.

    bob
     
  8. P Smith

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    BBC need only for a 99/101/103 combo LNBF !
    Regardless of definitions of 3 or 5 or 7 'LNA' (BTW, 'LNA' is a part on modern LNBF, so don't use the term).
    I used it with 1m dish and BBC, but select '5 LNB' antenna in H20 setup.
     
  9. Phredi

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    Thanks. I am pretty sure I was using both cables at least part of the time. And they were connected to the sat inputs :D
     
  10. TMullenJr

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    What about the multiswitch needing to be the WB68? Is that only for the new satellites, or could that be his issue?
     
  11. P Smith

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    The LNBF is driving everything, so a switch must support same signals.
     
  12. veryoldschool

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    You have a multi-switch right? So you have other boxes on your system?
    If so take the HR20 to another location and see if it works there.
    How long does the center conductor extend out of the coax?
    Have you put the HR10-250 back in place to see if it still works there?
    [As you may guess, I'm trying to prove everything is OK but the HR20]
     
  13. Phredi

    Phredi New Member

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    Other boxes are all working fine. I will try it in a different location - that is a great suggestion thanks.
     
  14. Phredi

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    Ok, I have acquired a BBC and will test with that tonight with any luck.

    If there is anything interesting or new to report I will post here :grin:
     
  15. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    You have a Phase III dish, so the BBC is useless.
     
  16. Phredi

    Phredi New Member

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    Thanks for all the responses. I tried a few more things today but I never got past the second blue greet screen.

    After that the screen just went solid blue on HDMI and that was the end of story (there was black on SD and Component outputs). The blue lights spin endlessly.

    So I guess this box is dead in the water.

    I am not sure if it is worth trying to get it repaired.

    In any case, I will work on getting my set up ready for a new dish and PVR eventually so ... 'I'll be back'... :D
     
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