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HR20 Users, would you trade it for a TiVo

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Earl Bonovich, Oct 6, 2007.

Would you trade?

  1. No, I would not trade my HR20 for a TiVo

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  2. Yes, I would trade my HR20 for a TiVo

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  1. BillyBob_jcv

    BillyBob_jcv Legend

    Feb 11, 2006
    I voted yes - I would trade, however it is a very qualified vote. I would trade only if that means I would get MRV, DLB, 30 second skip and the ability to extract shows and put them on my ipod. And, I also still want mpeg4, a faster UI and the 2-push series record. So - would I trade my HR20 for a HR10? No. Would I get an "HR30" that had the advantages of both? Absolutely!
  2. rmetcalf

    rmetcalf Mentor

    Jun 5, 2007
    I agree. The DVR is not the final state... but acquisition/decoding/home distribution of media will be on the TOP of the priotity list for what I envision as the final state. Ever think about what could be possible in the opposite direction? How much digital media are you creating today... and what does that growth curve look like?
  3. jjohns

    jjohns Godfather

    Sep 15, 2007
    Good question.
  4. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

    Jun 18, 2006
    Don't read anything more into it than it is.
  5. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    They were nice DVRs, weren't they?
  6. NCLou

    NCLou AllStar

    Nov 14, 2003
    Never would go back to Tivo. I never used suggestions, and very few wishlists, if any. It just isn't the way I choose recordings.

    I like to surf the guide and choose things that interest me. Just like when I go to the library, I don't go there to get anything in particular, I literally walk the aisles picking out things that strike my interest.

    Because of that, I adore the picture in guide. I will say that the Tivo-style guide was better set up for that kind of browsing, but the picture in guide trumps all for me. It drives my wife nuts, but I love to sit there browsing through the channels finding little gems, while watching something.

    I also really like the capacity meter, even if it isn't perfectly accurate. To me it's the most obvious omission from Tivo even if it isn't truly critical. The oft repeated advice from Tivo adherents to let your drive fill up with ridiculous suggestions, and then monitor how many are disappearing as a way to judge the status of the hard drive was just ridiculous.

    I don't miss DLB much. I'm 97% happy with HR20 now that we have some sort of auto correction on fast forward. If they would just fix it so it doesn't appear on FFx1, I will be thrilled. A also prefer the Tivo way of doing skip to tick or end, since I can't really do any more it on my universal remote.
  7. gully_foyle

    gully_foyle Hall Of Fame

    Jan 18, 2007
    Los Angeles
    While I wouldn't read anything into it, I wouldn't read anything out of it either.

    D* is again paying TiVo for new mods to the HR10. Why? Hard to say. On the one hand certain people "in the know" here suggest turning them into spare parts or planters, yet D* is planning something more for them and D* itself is changing owners. It's worth noting that the new owner (Malone) was an early investor in TiVo, although I think he sold out a while ago. But he's probably not hostile to them.

    Certainly the NDS Group, maker of many D* boxes (but apparently not the HR20) and owned by News Corp, will have fewer supporters at D* once News Corp exits the owner's suite.
  8. tiger2005

    tiger2005 Godfather

    Sep 22, 2006
    IMO, D*'s future choices TiVo, In-House, etc. will be made on nothing more than costs alone. If TiVo is the cheaper route for them to go, that's the way they'll go, but I highly doubt that to be the case.
  9. Agrajag

    Agrajag Godfather

    Jun 22, 2004
    Don't forget that Liberty is a fan of TiVo and that TiVo needs all the customers it can get. They are FINALLY starting to understand that their original business model wasn't the best choice so anything is possible down the line. Like it or not, TiVo has brand recognition and that can be played up in competitive marketing. Comcast could easily start putting up commercials that would make the HR20 approach seem chaotic and less reliable and it's like them to do it.

    Then there's the whole 2 years left of a 3 year moratorium on legal issues.

    Interesting stuff to consider.
  10. rawilson

    rawilson AllStar

    Oct 9, 2007
    In a second! I "upgraded" to an HR20 about 2 weeks ago and we actually no longer watch as much TV in the room where we upgraded. The HD is awesome, but the lack of DLB completely changes the way I've gotten used to watching TV.
  11. 40yearfan

    40yearfan AllStar

    Aug 8, 2007
    Nope. Now that my wife is used to the HR-20 and how much easier it is to operate, she would never go back and that to me is more of a deciding factor than anything else. I no longer have to tape her shows or set up a season pass as she is able to do that by herself (she refused to do so with the Tivo unit). She likes it so well, we are getting an additional unit for the M. bedroom as she sometimes needs to tape two different programs while watching a third.
  12. rmsuriani

    rmsuriani Cool Member

    Oct 1, 2007
    I really miss the dual buffer like alot of tivo users. Does anyone know if a new version of the HR20 is due out soon? I need to upgrade the tivo hd box in the bedroom but really don't want to pay another 299 then see a newer box hit the market.
  13. mikewolf13

    mikewolf13 Icon

    Jan 30, 2006
    I assume we must assume its the HR20 today in it's national release state and not consider the CEs right?

    even so, I am somewhat surprised at the reuslts (so far) given the tone of the group over the past 6 months or so...

    I did not vote as my experience with R15 pretty much turned me off against the DVR+ line.

    I plan to move to FIOS when a) my contract ends and b) i actually have a chance to try the DVR.

    But a MPEG4 DTIVO could have me change my mind..especially if DTV allowed it to be fully functional.
  14. guins

    guins Mentor

    Sep 12, 2007
    OMG YES YES YES!!!! I hate my HR-20.

    If not for the pixelation, it would be serviceable box. But there are too many other things that irk me about it too. Especially no DLBS!!!! TiVo would do it MUCH MUCH MUCH better!!!!
  15. doctor j

    doctor j Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Jun 14, 2006
    Birmingham, Al.
    I would love to have an MPEG 4 capable D*TIVO.
    I really have almost gotten familiar with my H-20's and love the weekly software updates but the dual live buffers is something I really really miss.
    I would still use and compare the HR-20 with an MPEG 4 (& upgraded speedwise) HR-10.

    Doctor j
  16. missingtivo

    missingtivo Mentor

    Dec 19, 2006
    But, being a DVR isn't one of them.

    If it could record programs reliably (including fixing CIR and Search),
    sync the Audio and Video together reliably (although its improving),
    improve the way slow-motion is done,
    and fix the pixelation issues during frame by frame,
    then this would be a pretty nice box.
  17. Sirshagg

    Sirshagg Hall Of Fame

    Dec 29, 2006
    !rolling :crying:
  18. hookemfins

    hookemfins Member

    Jul 3, 2007
    YES, I'd go to an mpeg 4 tivo unit in a heartbeat for the hr 20.

    Ease of use.
    Can get around the guide faster.
    DLB-plus I can change among 3 channels (although lose dlb for two of them)
    More stability

    The HR 20 is getting better though. IF it had DLB the choice would be tougher.
  19. belunos

    belunos AllStar

    Oct 5, 2007
    I voted yea, though I'm probably not very qualified. I've only had the unit for 2-3 weeks, but I've had a tivo for years. I'm no fanatic, and there are some things about the HR20 that I've very quickly fallen in love with and would hate to part with, but I still prefer the UI of the Tivo
  20. ajwillys

    ajwillys Godfather

    Jun 14, 2006
    I voted yes for tivo because I used to LOVE to hack it. I never had a DTiVo so I don't really no how that worked but I used to love galleon and streaming movies back and forth between my computer and TiVo's.
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