HR20 Wish List Survey

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  1. Milominderbinder2

    Milominderbinder2 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '08

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    That is the Set Record Defaults feature.

    It is detailed in the Tips & Tricks link below.

    - Craig
     
  2. Doug Brott

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    We already have this item listed on the HR20 Wish List Survey.

    Negative padding - the ability to start a recording late and/or end it early is currently #32 on the Survey. One would assume that if this feature were available that you would also be able to apply it to a Series Link.
     
  3. iacas

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    You know, many of the problems people have with the whole "guide" is based on the assumption that the "guide" is the best solution. And by that I mean that this static "beamed down and then never-changing" guide is the best there is, and that we must adapt to it.

    While it's true that we must simply because that's what exists NOW, imagine how TV will work in the (hopefully near) future: when football runs late, you won't have to be home to record the show AFTER Amazing Race just so you don't end up with 30 minutes of 60 Minutes and then half of the Amazing Race. What's stopping networks from supplying guide data in a more efficient manner?

    And going beyond that, what's stopping networks and tv stations from working with broadcaste (cable, satellite, etc.) systems to have some sort of digital flag that says "Amazing Race is begins in five minutes." Such notices would occur regardless of whether Amazing Race started at its scheduled time OR if it started late.

    And there's probably better stuff out there than that, too... this is just what's coming to me quickly. Clearly such would require a whole lot of communication and some sort of standard that everyone could adhere to - and the trouble and cost of starting it up - but it could be done. Then again, in a day and age where networks intentionally run 61-minute programs to screw people with DVRs, perhaps it's naive of me to think it ever will.

    P.S. The other "guide-induced" situation that annoys me? When we know hours in advance that the President is going to be on primetime for, say, 20 minutes doing a little speech, and shows are delayed, and yet the guide isn't updated.
     
  4. kevinturcotte

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    This couldn't be implemented into the HR20, but would work for it's successor. Take a cue from Microsoft and either have a hybrid hard drive (Hard drive/Flash Memory mix), and put the OS on the flash, or even just a GB or 2 of flash memory installed to store the OS on. From what I'm reading about Microsoft's plans, it would significantly decrease boot up time for the DVR. Maybe even keep the guide data, searches, series links, all that stuff, on it. How much space does all that take up?
    Removable would be even better than a hybrid hard drive. Store ALL settings on the flash memory, and then if you need to change receivers for whatever reason (Or upgrade hard drives, whatever), you use the same flash drive and you have all your settings back (Obviously recordings would be gone, but I don't think there's too much that could be done about that).
     
  5. kevinturcotte

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    Another major problem I have is the 25 limit on searches. I spent probably 30-40 minutes yesterday copying all my wishlists over from my HR10, and then when I went to check on them, only the last 25 were there. It royally p!$$&d me off lol
     
  6. Doug Brott

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    Thanks alexdrozd for helping us all get to the bottom of this. From what I am reading, the added item Option to put search results in folders by program title appears to be a potential solution to your problem.
     
  7. Doug Brott

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    This is a great thought, and there is a good chance that it will be implemented. However, I'll bet that any technology that would enable this would require disabling any commercial skipping technology that currently exists. Perhaps one method that they would use would be a single "forced" commercial at the beginning of the broadcast with FF/RW available after watching the "forced" commercial.

    I'm just thinking outside of the box here .. Marketers want to get their message out, so if they networks are going to help us record the programs more effectively, then they are going to want us to "pay" for that privilege.
     
  8. Doug Brott

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    The ability to backup your settings is making a return trip. The thread discussing this is here
     
  9. RollTideinHD

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    It would be nice to have a small countdown timer on corner of window a few minutes before recording is to begin. I think Dish Network does this on their DVRs
     
  10. cbaker

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    When I took the survey, I did not understand the "Negative Padding.." item, and definately did not associate it with Series Link and/or "autorecording". If it is representing the same thing I am suggesting (and I know the length of the description is an issue for the survey) then I would recommend a change to the wording of Negative Padding to incorporate the auto recording associated with Series Link and the ability to set it on a per show basis.
     
  11. Doug Brott

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    Would it be sufficient to change the word "a" to "any?" such that it read as follow:

    Negative padding - the ability to start any recording late and/or end it early

    Basically, what you have described has been coined as "negative padding" a while back. This is something that TiVo folks have been looking for. If that wording change isn't sufficient, perhaps you can suggest another phrasing that might.
     
  12. mrshermanoaks

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    Doug, here are some things I'd like to propose for the wish list. May be a little hard to summarize, but....

    1. New behavior: If I'm watching a show that's delayed and I change the channel, I get no warning about losing the buffer. Often I've changed the channel not realizing I was delayed and then lose the buffer. If it's delayed more than 30 seconds, there should be a warning.

    2. New behavior: If I'm watching a live show and get a message that it needs to change the channel to start recording (meaning two shows are about to record), I only get the option to cancel the show on the one tuner. What if I want to cancel the other show that is about to record? It should give me the option to either let it do what it wants to do, or to cancel either of the two shows about to record.

    3. I consider this a fix: If I'm watching a show delayed and a new show starts to record on the same tuner, the HR20 should not automatically start showing the program that's newly recording and dump the buffer I was watching. No reason or excuse for this.
     
  13. Doug Brott

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    Hmmm. I wouldn't want that. I might be OK @ 30 minutes, but 30 seconds would annoy me. Anyone else want to second this one?

    What you are saying makes sense. I've only seen this message maybe one time ever, and I'm remembering that it did let you cancel one or the other. You saying it must mean that I am remembering wrong. This one should be added to the list.


    Agreed.
     
  14. Milominderbinder2

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    We know it is now a Promised Feature but I think we need to keep the spotlight on this Missing Promised Feature:

    Enable the "Videos" menu option under Music & Photos

    When they get it done, they get an attaboy. In the mean time it will be interesting to see how we rate this.

    I did not think that I would care about being able to play Music and watch photos on the HR20. Now that I see them in action, it is great and I want Videos now too!

    - Craig

    I wrote out step-by-step instructions that I used to set up wireless networking here:
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  15. Milominderbinder2

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    The HR20 does this in one keystroke! The key thing is that the HR20 does already warn you that it is about to stop the live TV that you are on and change the channels. Press ®. Set up padding to extend your time as needed. The key here is to use the DVR capabilities. This is not documented. I will add it to the Tips and Tricks.
    This is also not documented but still only one keystroke. Tell it to change channels. You have two minutes while still on the show you are watching. Press ®. It will give you the choice to record the new program or either of the new ones! I will also add this to the Tips and Tricks.
    Again, the key here is to use the DVR capabilities. The HR20 will only do this if you have two shows that need to record at the same time. It does warn you when it is about to change channels. Use the trick from #1 above. Bamm! It's in there! Undocumented but in there.- Craig
     
  16. thekochs

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    Amen.........but not just videos.....any MPEG-2/MPEG-4 content...Here's how............or at least one way. :p

    Work short term with Tverstiy to develop a HR20 plugin. In this plugin allow for no transcoding if the movie files on PC are VOB or MPEG-4 format (since HR20 should be able to decode), or transcoding if other format (eg. AVI, WMV, etc.). Then allow the on-board HR20 scalar to drive/convert to 720P. Enable the crop, stretch, etc. feature for this to allow folks to tweek their image based on the fact the HR20 will not know the AR of the source/streamed material.

    Boy, I hope they put this at the top of their list !!!! If so....well.......:gott:
     
  17. Doug Brott

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    Can anyone else confirm this limitation? I have not set up any auto-records.
     
  18. Doug Brott

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    I like your implementation idea. However, MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 are video content, so let's just keep the wording simple for now.
     
  19. Doug Brott

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    HR20 Wish List Changes 22-Dec-2006 - Complete List of changes - Guidelines for changes

    Additions to the List

    22-Dec-2006 The ability to edit a Series Link directly from the prioritizer even when no upcoming episodes are available [Monty23]
    22-Dec-2006 The ability to save the settings of your HR20 via network or USB drive [matto, kturcotte] back by popular request
    22-Dec-2006 Show small countdown timer on corner of window a few minutes before recording is to begin [RollTideinHD]
    22-Dec-2006 Enable the "Videos" menu option under Music & Photos [Milominderbinder2]

    Wording Changed

    17-Dec-2006 The results from that search should show the titles once. You must select it again to get a list of times and channels => Option to put search results in folders by program title
    22-Dec-2006 Provide accurate repeat/first run INFO so the right shows can be recorded => Provide accurate repeat/first run & HD info so the right shows can be recorded p. 47
    22-Dec-2006 The ability to auto-change to a channel - same as if recording program without actually recording it => The ability to auto-tune to a channel - same as if recording program without actually recording it
    22-Dec-2006 Negative padding - the ability to start a recording late and/or end it early => Negative padding - the ability to start a recording late and/or end it early

    Removed from the list

    18-Dec-2006 The ability to filter by category after searching by Title or Person - existing feature

    Chopping Block - will be removed if significantly negative again next Friday

    Nothing

    Saved from the Chopping Block - past weeks values noted

    2.657 Ability to set the HR20 to accept both IR (infrared) and RF (radio frequency) remote control inputs [​IMG]
    2.597 scrolling title in the mini guide - length of title display area is too short [​IMG]
    2.443 Ability to disable the Screen Saver [​IMG]

    [​IMG] = marked as "unlikely to be implemented"
     
  20. Milominderbinder2

    Milominderbinder2 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '08

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    Doug,

    I don't think that we have ever heard of anyone surviving even 20 Autorecords. Your HR20 will be unexplainably locking up at least twice a week. Right now Autorecords are so broken, you want to avoid Autorecords at all costs.

    Use Series Links if possible instead. You can have up to 50 Series Links but at 40 many report constant crashed even with Series Links.

    More Autorecords is not something to wish for right now.

    - Craig
     
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