HR20 Wish List Survey

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by Doug Brott, Oct 24, 2006.

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  1. iacas

    iacas DBSTalk Club Member

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    I do not second that. Like I want an annoying "reminder" every time I change the channel "behind live." That's what DLBs are for.

    My fear is that you're adding so much stuff that neither qualifies as a "tip" nor a "trick" that you're going to end up with an 8-page document that nobody wants to read because it's too cumbersome and lists too many.

    In other words, I wish you were more selective about the number and type of "tips and tricks" you included, or perhaps if you split the document into two or three PDFs. Then you can put all of the work-arounds in one of them. Then I could safely ignore that entire PDF and more quickly find the two or three "tips" that I would ever use.

    If one of the PDFs was a simple "cheat sheet" for the advanced or not-well-documented features, I'd use that one. Five or six tips or tricks that document essentially that the "Record" button records shows is watering down the content.
     
  2. Vader14

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    larger window (or full screen like the guide) for mp3/picture title selection and a button press to show the songs available when playing mp3/pictures through network
     
  3. mrshermanoaks

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    I'm not following you. Are you saying I should hit record every time I change channels?

    ReplayTV had the warning whenever you were going to dump the buffer (even if it was a few seconds), and it wasn't all that annoying. I'd see it once a week. If you made it so it only popped up when you were delayed more than X minutes, it would be better. Of course, the ReplayTV could delay for hours, so maybe it was just more important there. Maybe the small delay buffer for live TV on the HR20 means everyone is cool with losing 30 minutes of buffered program without warning?

    And I'm telling you I sat here and watched the HR20 warn it was about to change the channel to start recording and then dump 15 minutes of buffered live TV to show me the recording program. That's a bug.

    Everyone around here whines about the lack of a dual buffer, but then doesn't seem to care if the one buffer they do have (and probably the only one they'll have any time soon) gets dumped consistently without warning.
     
  4. bsmithFX4

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    Ease-of-Use Feature request: When you are recording 2 programs, but try to change the channel, you get a screen informing you that 2 shows are being recorded. Those shows are listed with an option next to both shows to Stop Recording that corresponding show. In addition to that, there should be an option to "Go To" one of tose two shows.

    So, for each show, that warning screen should include the Title, a "Go To" option, and a "Stop Recording" option.
     
  5. richlife

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    I don't think I've seen this although there is a "recover deleted recording" -- nice to have maybe, but mostly overkill to me.

    What I'd like to see is the standard "Are you sure?" verification before deleting a recording. Sometimes the HR20 is just a tic slow responding to key presses and that has twice resulted in me absentmindedly deleting a recording that I had not seen and wanted to see. The Tivo based units ask for verification before deleting and so (by default) does every recent computer I've used.

    Since I frequently watch tv when just too tired to do anything else, it's a perfect setup for the accidental delete. Just give me a chance to correct before blowing away that recording.
     
  6. Spanky_Partain

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    Guide button usage

    Press guide button once - guide, press again - search, press again - channel categories
     
  7. Doug Brott

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    GUIDE button "displays the Guide" first and Channel Categories second per p. iv. & 4 is currently #4 of 58 on the HR20 Wish List Survey.
     
  8. Doug Brott

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    I believe that you are referring to deleting using the DASH-DASH method, but correct me if I'm wrong. The good thing is that if Undelete - the ability to (possibly) restore a deleted program were to become a reality, this would not be a problem.

    A confirm delete after hitting DASH-DASH was removed from the list on 10-Nov-2006 to better focus the HR20 Wish List. The conversation at the time revolved around the fact that the DASH-DASH method was for quick delete and a lot of folks didn't want the confirm.

    If you really, really, really want me to add this back into the list, then let me know. Otherwise, I think that we should just let it stay off.
     
  9. Doug Brott

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    Just a placeholder so that I remember on Friday ...

    I'm going to add working CallerID to the wish list. There seem to be a number of folks still having issues with this.
     
  10. RobertE

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    Couple of thoughts:

    Turn on the USB ports for mice/keyboards for use in searches, game lounge, etc.

    Opt in to allow the box to phone the mothership either over phoneline or network with it has an error.
     
  11. Milominderbinder2

    Milominderbinder2 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '08

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    How about wording like this?

    Make Caller ID work reliably as promised on page 33 of the manual.

    We talk about this constantly but never added this request either:

    Make Closed Captioning (Setup>Display Menu) work reliably.

    On the same programs that closed captioning is still garbled on the HR20, it works great on the old Sony T60.

    Both are missing promised features.

    Thanks,

    - Craig
     
  12. Stuart Sweet

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    I'd like to second both of those suggestions. I was thinking how cool it would be if you could hook a USB keyboard to the front and type searches like a grownup instead of the current "ouija board" method.

    I bet there is a keyboard driver already in the OS.
     
  13. Milominderbinder2

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    Doug touched on this but here was the reasoning given.

    Right now, you have two primary ways to delete a recorded program: the two step and the three step method.

    For either Press LIST and then move until the program you want to delete is highlighted.

    1. The two step method is Dash>Dash.

    2. The three step method is Select>Delete>Confirm.

    The problem I also have with Dash-Dash is that the HR20 is slow to respond. The stupid annimations just make it worse. You may end up deleting two program and not even realize. Remove Animations is already on the Wish List.

    - Craig
     
  14. Doug Brott

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    !rolling That's too funny. I'll get these into the list on Friday.
     
  15. Milominderbinder2

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    I was told that a mouse would require some work. The user interface right now is not set up to respond as a GUI. But developers do have keyboards already connected to HR20's. I was told the problem is exactly that. From a keyboard you can get in under the hood just like a developer. They would have to set up traps for certain keystrokes.

    Just imagine what this would allow for searches. Imagine if you could use a wireless keyboard.

    Maybe the wording might be like this:

    Enable USB ports for keyboard use in searches, game lounge, etc

    As to the ET Phone home abillity for problems, I don't think they have the phone trunk lines in southern CA to handle the volume. :)

    Great suggestions.
     
  16. Stuart Sweet

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    This makes me wonder what would happen if you hooked up a keyboard RIGHT NOW. Would it just work, or would you be able to hit a common sequence (ctrl/alt/del, esc-esc, ctrl-esc, etc) and get into some magic developer area?

    I'm betting that the very question is very close to breaking the "no hacking discussion allowed rule" but still...
     
  17. Doug Brott

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    I believe that this problem would be solved if Dual Live Buffers were to be implemented. I do not think that this item should be added to the list. If someone else wants to second the request, then I will add it.
     
  18. Doug Brott

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    HR20 Wish List Changes 29-Dec-2006 - Complete List of changes - Guidelines for changes

    Additions to the List

    29-Dec-2006 Make Caller ID work reliably as promised on page 33 of the manual [brott]
    29-Dec-2006 Make Closed Captioning (Setup>Display Menu) work reliably [capmeister]
    29-Dec-2006 Enable USB ports for keyboard use in searches, game lounge, etc [RobertE]
    29-Dec-2006 Full screen menu (like the guide) when choosing Music & Photos [Vader14]

    Wording Changed

    Nothing

    Removed from the list

    Nothing

    Chopping Block - will be removed if significantly negative again next Friday

    1.989 Allow per-title permanent parental unblocking regardless of whether or not parental controls are active or inactive

    Saved from the Chopping Block - past weeks values noted

    Nothing

    [​IMG] = marked as "unlikely to be implemented"
     
  19. mtnagel

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    I can't believe more people haven't rated this higher. I mean, even if you don't think you'll ever hit 50, don't you think it's annoying that there is some artificial limit? Unless, suddenly, if you were to have 51, then the machine slows down to a crawl, which I hope doesn't happen.

    Right now I have 42 on my HR20 and 54 on my Directivo backup since I haven't added all my SP's to my HR20 (though I also have some new ones on HR20 that I haven't added to the tivo yet because my HR20 is pretty reliable, so I'm not very diligent in making sure they are recording the exact same thing). But there are some new shows coming up in January, so I fear I'll come to a point where I have to make some decisions on what to include and what to remove. And that's annoying. I could just put HD stuff on the HR20 and SD stuff on the Directivo, but I'd rather just have it all on one unit.
     
  20. mtnagel

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    So, are people rating things lower just because they don't every think they'll use it? If it's a feature that you can chose to use or not, why not rate it at least a 4 or 5?

    I mean, based on my 50 prioritizer limit, even if you will never have more than say 20 Series Links, why would you care if there is no limit? It won't affect how you use your HR20, right?
     
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