HR20 Wish List

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  1. Steve

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    Try hitting the "stop" button when in the ToDo list. It's not intuitive, since "--" is used elsewhere, but it should do what you want. :)

    For more undocumented Tips and Tricks, check out Craig's (Milominderbender2's) excellent summary here. /s
     
  2. SpaceGuy

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    I'm a new HR20 owner and I'm looking for directions how to switch from watching on one tuner to watching on the other tuner. On my TiVo I could switch tuners by hitting the live button. I can't find how to do this on the HR20. Any suggestions? Thx.
     
  3. Michael D'Angelo

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    You are not able to do it. The HR20 does not have DLB (dual live buffers).
     
  4. Steve

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    Ya. Unfortunately, the only way I know to get to a show that might be recording on the other tuner is to select it from playlist.

    Assuming you're willing to lose the current live buffer, does anyone know a quicker way to view the recording in progress on the other tuner? The PREV button will do it once both tuners are in it's memory, but not the first time you hit it.

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  5. Stuart Sweet

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    Tune to the channel that it's recording? If I understand the question correctly, you're trying to see what's being recorded. Going to the list and pushing PLAY will start you at the beginning, and tuning to the channel that's being recorded will take you to real time where you can rewind from there.
     
  6. DogLover

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    You could go to the list, see what channel and see what channel is being recorded. When you are in the list, the number buttons seem to work with the PIP. When the channel changes, just press exit to go to full screen. (If the recording is in a folder, you have to press enter to open the folder.)

    It's not that quick, but it does get you to live on the current recording.
     
  7. Milominderbinder2

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    Dave,

    It is working.

    You have two tuners. If it does not need to bother you from what you are watching, it doesn't.

    The recording orange light goes on and it records it so that it is ready whenever your are ready to watch it.

    If you would have already been recording something else and watching yet another channel is the only time it needs to bother you.

    As you spend more time with it, I promise you will love how the HR20 does Autotune.

    As an aside, we have had Autotune on the wish list at least twice. Each time it got such a low response that it was removed.

    Autotune is the one feature I hate the most on the H21. That and no Replay button. It is hard to go back to 1999.

    - Craig
     
  8. Milominderbinder2

    Milominderbinder2 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '08

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    There is already a Wish List item that would solve the 3rd market and even a 4th or 5th market OTA problem.

    The feature you need is actually documented in the HR20 manual! It would solve your problems and also solve the myriad of problems that people have with missing OTAs in their home market.

    Scan for OTA Channels is on page 78 of the HR20 manual:

    To scan for off-air channels and set up the local network areas after Guided Setup, do the following:
    1. Press MENU.
    2. Press SELECT on Settings in the Quick Menu.
    3. Select Setup in the Quick Menu.
    4. Select Sat & Ant from the options on the left menu.
    5. Press SELECT on the Antenna Setup button. If you have not selected your local networks yet,
    select the Local Networks button and follow the instructions until you are done.
    6. Select the Scan for Channels button to have the receiver scan local off -air frequencies.

    To see how many OTA channels are currently totally missing click here:

    OTA issue reporting web page

    Please take the Wish List Survey if you have not in the past 3 days and give OTA Scan a high mark. Please also see the other Missing Promised Features.

    - Craig
     
  9. Milominderbinder2

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    This was on the Wish List but got very low marks. Once the 4x FF was added at 90x normal speed it made it so fast to go through a 2 hour movie that there is not time to try to type in your hours and minutes.

    You also have a 300x speed as well in the Jump feature. If your program is over an hour it is a 600x speed jump. For big jumps it is great.

    YES! Please fix this. And when I hit pause it it to read or see something on screen why on earth would they even put up the progress bar? I love the idea of being able to set the time it is on screen.

    And now that the progress bar is set to bright white, it is blinding. Even back in 1967, Scotty knew how to set the phasers to stun instead of kill.

    - Craig
     
  10. Milominderbinder2

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    Skip had been a Wish List item but came down once we verified that the problem is not in patent infringement or technological but in contracts with content providers.

    We have verification of this from at least 3 different sources now.

    At one point in December we had a great alternative.

    For just one release, the Advance (30 Second Slip) was a 30 Second Slip. Now if you do 10 Slips on the HD Test Pattern, Slip averages 34 seconds.

    The other miraculous part was that instead of the current 1.85 seconds per slip, it was only 1 second. It was the best of both worlds.

    I do not think Skip will ever be possible. But I am led to believe that they could make 30 Second Slip be the old 30 Second Slip.

    - Craig
     
  11. Milominderbinder2

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    Vor,

    I know of no good way to do this. If only it would at that moment let you set a BookMark, but it won't. The reason we are told is that it is in the Live buffer and you cannot bookmark in the live recording buffer.

    - Craig
     
  12. Montel

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    I still think that having the option to key in an exact amount to move forward or back would be prefered to the tick marks (1/2 hour etc...)

    I use this mostly for sports (long sporting events) and I love to move ahead a certain amount - say 12 minutes, or 20 minutes from an exact spot. I wouldn't mind it doing it as a slip feature but I would love to be able to move ahead or behind a fixed amount that I specify.

    This would be nice for the live buffer as well to move back to the beginning of a show you are missing but is already in the buffer...

    I agree for movies or shorter shows it isn't a big deal, but for longer events I think it would be a nice option.

    Key in 12, Slip and it quickly moves ahead exactly 12 minutes...
    Thanks! Montel
     
  13. Doug Brott

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    It they could just fix the skip-to-tick to work better I think that would solve most problems. 4xFF works well to make it more granular.

    Right now, it takes a long time to skip-to-tick up to the 3rd or 4th tick - even worse when trying to go farther in an extended recording. It takes 3 seconds per tick to get it to move and then I'd say a minimum of 3 seconds extra per tick to be able to go to the next tick on the way. That's a minimum of 24 seconds to get to the 60-minute mark via skip-to-tick. It makes perfect sense why you'd want to just say 60-go and there you are.

    I'd much prefer to hit the FF button then ADVANCE, ADVANCE, ADVANCE, ADVANCE, PLAY and be at the 60-minute mark. Probably 2 seconds or 12x faster and infinitely less frustrating than the current method.

    If you have specific points of programs that you want to get to, I know that you can set bookmarks. This will help in sport programs that you keep for posterity or training. Having the above method will keep the interface simple and through the use of that method and 4xFF, you should be able to reach any point in a program quickly.

    Maybe it's time for folks to start rallying around the skip-to-tick fix again.
     
  14. ZELLIS

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    A REQUEST!

    the ability to VIEW and SAVE recorded programs from my DVR 20 to my PC via ethernet. (network).
     
  15. Doug Brott

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    ZELLIS, I like the idea, but I think we'll all agree that Copyright Law will keep this from being a reality.

    You can record to a VCR, DVD, even a PC capture card, but you cannot simply "copy" the program from your DVR to your PC. This, of course, is not as convenient as your suggestion.
     
  16. Milominderbinder2

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    If you could do this you could also repost the file through a file sharing service.

    This is the key feature that Replay had that put them out of business.

    - Craig
     
  17. Spanky_Partain

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    Would it be cool to edit the title of Movies?

    Say change the title of three movies to "tonight" would it make a folder called "tonight" and put the movies in so they could all be group played?

    That would be kinda cool for setting up slumber party group plays and such!
     
  18. Milominderbinder2

    Milominderbinder2 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '08

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    We had this request before but for a different reason. A guy wanted to hide the name of the porno movie he had recorded from his wife.

    The informal answer that we got back is that this database that it draws from has to be locked because it is also used for PPV billing.

    - Craig
     
  19. Stuart Sweet

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    This is a discussion for another whole thread, but suffice it to say that the constitutionality of that part of the copyright law is suspect in some people's eyes. Some people have the opinion that any software or scheme which incidentally or intentionally deprives a person of the right to fair use of any information or media he has purchased, or has been delivered as part of a paid service, is unconstitutional.

    I for one do not advocate breaking laws, I advocate changing or challenging them.
     
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    RALLY! RALLY! RALLY!

    True, it's really just an annoyance, but one of those things that can really improve the user experience. It seems doable, as the buttons exist on the remote, and are not otherwise needed (unlike the slow motion press-and-hold silliness).

    As currently implemented, when fast forwarding, a press of the advance key bails out of the FF and executes an advance. I can live without that if it means a more usable skip-to-tick.

    This bothered me in particular during the Tour de France over the last few weeks. Some of those recordings were loooooooonnnnnggggg, like as long as 5 or 6 hours. Several times, after watching the program, there was something that I wanted to show my wife, typically near the end of the recording. It would take FOREVER to skip to the last third or quarter of the recording, and she would get bored and go do something else while waiting for me to find the spot I was looking for.

    I can't think of any good reason not to implement this.
     
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