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HR20 with Cavalry 1TB HD - hard drive or box failing?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by jbags5, Nov 30, 2010.

  1. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    It will not, if you'll not answer to any Win7 request to make any action when the drive will be connected.
    I took the SW from here - v4.46b.
     
  2. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    Ok thanks. I must have been thinking back in the win98/Tivo days when it wrote something to the drive and screwed it up, and we had to boot up using linux boot dvd's to do it.
     
  3. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Trust me ( and you can see it from OP response ) it is not that literally as written. No one would stop at the point - some ppl will go for data, some for a drive.

    [20+ years in IT, a lot of disks salvaged, 1000s users questioned ...]
     
  4. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    Yea, I missed that program you recommended in the second post, or I would have known it wouldnt hurt the drive. Just didnt want to tell him something and have him lose all his programs. I need to re-read posts I guess.
     
  5. jbags5

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    Ok, I have no idea how to use Victoria. I downloaded some sort of Victoria.script file, that I assume I will need to use with command prompts or something, and I have no idea how to do that. I consider myself computer savvy, but I'm no programmer.

    I guess I will try to use the diagnostic tool that WD provides for their drives on their website (had no idea that a WD drive was in the Cavalry enclosure until I ran the test). Will post the results when complete.

    Thanks for your help Davenlr and P Smith.
     
  6. RunnerFL

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    And that's why all SMART tests give you the same information...
     
  7. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Look up, I did post direct link to DL the program.
     
  8. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Did you read the thread ?
    Please do, as I see you're not follow my points and did pick a phrase out of context.
     
  9. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I read your posts and you're having the OP go thru hoops he doesn't have to go thru. He'll get the same information regardless of what SMART test he runs. The short of it is SMART gives you either "PASSED" or "FAILING", no matter which software you use to run the tests.

    Oh, and I didn't quote you out of context. What I quoted was on a line of its own!
     
  10. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Really it is out, better discuss the issue ...
     
  11. Rich

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    Oh my God! Just take the HDD out of the Cavalry enclosure and put it in a docking station or an Antec MX-1 and you'll probably have no further problems with the HDD. Those Cavs are crap and the enclosures fail quickly as a rule.

    You'll save all your recordings and your problems should be over with. If the HDD still does it, buy another HDD and put it in your new external device. Take the simple route, it always easier.

    Rich
     
  12. jbags5

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    Just an update:

    After my external HD passed the initial SMART tests, I went ahead and followed rich's advice and went with the Antec docking station (30 bucks on newegg). I removed my WD 1TB drive from the Cavalry enclosure and popped it into the docking station on Monday.

    It's been working perfectly since then. No more issues like I had before (currently knocking on wood) when the drive was in the Cavalry enclosure. It's whisper quiet as well. All my recordings/settings were still there.

    Only concern I have is that the bare hard drive seems too exposed there next to my DVR on my TV stand. There's is plenty of room for it and all, but I guess I'm concerned about dust or whatever. Guess I'll have to dust the living room a bit more to alleviate my concerns. Or maybe I'm just used to seeing that enclosure.

    Also, is the docking station meant to run 24/7 like it does when it's attached to the DVR? I feel like I need to turn it off overnight every once in awhile to be safe (haven't done that yet). It seems to run pretty cool/lukewarm for now though, so maybe that's not a concern.

    Anyway, just wanted to update. Thanks again to everyone for their help.
     
  13. Rich

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    Great!

    Don't worry about the dust being an issue, I haven't seen any dust accumulation at all on mine. I don't think you'll have a problem with stability, they seem to be kinda hard to knock over. It is a bit disconcerting to see the HDD just hanging out of the top of the docking station, but that doesn't seem to be an issue either.

    Mine have been running 24/7 since I got them and I see no problems with that. If you get multiple docks, and have different HDDs, you'll see differences in the temps of the HDD in the docks. My WDs are much cooler than my Seagate Cuda HDD in the docks.

    What kind of HDD did the Cav have in it?

    Rich
     
  14. Richierich

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    This is why I went to Replacing My Internal Hard Drive instead of using an External Hard Drive Enclosure. It is Quieter, Less Cumbersome and actually works without having another device hanging off of it but then again you actually have to Own your DVR or face violating the TOS.
     
  15. Rich

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    Add to that statement that the HRs seem to perform better with a larger HDD internally.

    Rich
     
  16. CCarncross

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    I've gotten identical results either way so my anecdotal evidence seems to contradict this. I think the real issue is some people have used some marginal external setups, so an incorrect assumption was reached that they perform better internally. Less hardware to fail due to less parts in the chain is true, but performance should be identical as long as you are using proper functioning enclosures and drives.
     
  17. Rich

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    Yes, I know, but I just seem to have less problems with my large internals than the externals. And it might just be me, but they do seem to work a tad better with the internals. I really think that the externals put some extra strain on the HRs.

    Rich
     
  18. hasan

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    ...and I suspect the code for handling the external drives is not exactly optimum (per my other posts about recognizing eSATA drives not being consistent)
     

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