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HR22 is SLOW compared to my HR20

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by flakrat, Sep 13, 2009.

  1. Rich

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    Are you using an eSATA?

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  2. Rich

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    If you have a nearly full 1TB eSATA, you can expect the HR to bog down. Any HR will bog down in this situation. It's normal. You might try going to the System Info & Test screen and go to Reset and hit the Restart option. That should "refresh" the HR and speed up your HR.

    If that doesn't work, do a hard reset. Unplug the HR, unplug the eSATA, wait a minute or so, plug in the eSATA, then plug in the HR. That should definitely speed up the HR.

    The size of the eSATA doesn't matter, a 750G eSATA will begin to bog down the HRs at about 30% Available and the same thing will happen with a 1TB, a 1.5TB and a 2TB.

    This is the reason I've been saying over and over that a 1TB is too small for serious recording.

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  3. Guindalf

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    As I said, it seems to be better now. We'll test during the evening hours, when it's more obvious. I'm also trying to troubleshoot a sound problem where I get nothing but a muffled bassline during commercials and show trailers - and missing dialog at times (like players saying their names during a football game, etc.).

    No.
     
  4. Rich

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    Reason I asked was because eSATAs that are incompatible with some HRs have huge problems with baseball games and especially football games. You might consider putting a large eSATA on the 22.

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  5. Guindalf

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    Why?

    I don't need the space at the moment. I have over 80% free (it's just been replaced) and I don't have one I could just plug in.
     
  6. flakrat

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    Now that the latest update has been installed, not much change in performance. Based on a previous post I just turned off scrolling effect, I'll see if that makes a difference.

    Turning native off didn't seem to change anything. I guess I'll just have to adjust my remote speed with this new unit until the new hardware comes out :)

    I do like to dual tuner mode now!
     
  7. RDH416

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    New release no help on our HR22-100 either. We've always had scrolling and Native turned off and, compared to the HR20-100 we formerly had the HR-22 is much S--L--O--O--O--O--W--E--R. The HR-22 with AM-21 OTA tuners attached sure holds OTA signals much better though.
     
  8. Rich

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    I really find it interesting that people are surprised by the NR not speeding up the 22s. Perhaps they'll now be willing to take the suggestion that their "system" is at fault and not the HR itself. The 22 that I had was just as fast as any 21 (which it and the 23 are) I have had and still have. And damn near as fast as my five 20-700s.

    I can't believe I'm defending a model that I have absolutely no use for (that includes every model produced that ends in 100), but to be fair, the 22-100 that I had was not slow. None of my HRs are slow. I'm not the only one without speed complaints and I wish some others would post in the same manner.

    My offer still stands: Bring your "slow" HR to NJ, PM me and I'll give you directions to my home and we'll put that HR on my "system" and see if it exhibits the same slowness.

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  9. Mike Greer

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    The problem here seems to be what people consider slow. I have tested HR22s and HR23s at several places and I consider them all to be slow. If I'm comparing them to Motorola Cable boxes they are fast. If I compare them to my old Dish Network receivers the Motorola boxes are unusable and DirecTV's HR series are painfully slow.

    Just depends on what you can put up with.

    I have also played around with 1 HR20 that was faster than my HR22s but still what I would call slow. I'm still looking for an HR20 to buy so I can compare them side-by-side.

    It is not possible for the majority of HR installs to be screwed up. That's not to say there aren't any.

    Maybe you could post a video clip of you scrolling around the menus and changing channels so we could all see how fast your HRs are compared to our own?

    If they are not slow how do you explain why people-in-the-know that usually stay out of these arguments (smart people!) telling us the new firmware would speed things up? I do think it did speed mine up a little - not much but every little bit helps. How/why would DirecTV be working on problems that don't exist?

    As far as problems in my setup do you have any suggestions? I have disconnected the network and phone line so they can't be the problem (on all 3 of mine). I have even unplugged the sat feed so the only thing plugged in is the TV using HDMI.... Scrolling through the menus is just as slow without even having the dish plugged in! I'm willing to try anything but again - the chances of all of us nitpickers having some other issue is just too much to swallow.

    After football season is over my plan is to 'suspend' my account and go back to Dish Network just so I can watch TV without being frustrated. Once I have that setup I'll put up a video of my TV using PIP with the HR22 on one side and Dish 722 on the other. I'll scroll through the menus and guides and change channels and then maybe the non-believers like yourself will see the difference.
     
  10. Mike Greer

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    I take it from the silence here that no one wants to post of a video of their 'fast' HR2x so those of us with slow ones will have something to compare our receivers with?
     
  11. bpaulson

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    While the HR22 isn't the fastest thing I've seen, out of all the receivers out there it's doing a lot more (That crappy Motorola box you're talking about looks like it has a guide from 1994, has no MRV, on demand is a separate system and therefore you can't pull up program information or the guide while watching.)

    I do have one box that's slower than the other two. I have 3 HR22-100's and the one I picked up from best buy that's new and not reconditioned is the slowest.

    My father has an HR23-700 (long before they were even rumored to be in circulation) and that's actually slower than my HR22.

    All in all though for what directv provides in service, what they're currently aspiring to do with the DVR in features I think the HR22/23 do a great job at what they're tasked with.

    That being said I can't wait until they get the TiVo units out next year...
     
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    Mike, you know as well as I do that the only "fast" HR22-100 is the one that's being dropped over the side of a ten-story building, so you won't get any takers with that particular unit.
     
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    I'm pretty sure you are discussing a violation of DirecTV's terms of service.
     
  14. Rich

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    Don't think so, I checked before I posted. You can take them on vacation with you, right? What's the difference? Would it work?

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    I just added an HR22-100 to compliment my HR20-700 because my wife has 4 shows on at the same time that she needs to record. Both are set up identically and running 0x34c.

    The 22 is so slow at times, I want to press the function button again because I didn't think it worked the first time.

    Big difference between the two!
     
  16. feeth

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    I don't have a HR22, but my HR21-100 slower then my HR20-700 and my R20-100 when changing channels. I guess this it is expected for the R20 to be the fastest.

    My HR21-100 will show "searching for channels" on most HD channels when the SD channels work fine with the slightest hint of clouds in the area. At the same time My HR20-700 and R20-100 will receive the HD channels fine.

    I had to bring out the R20 into my living room yesterday to watch my steelers lose. :nono2:

    If I call DTV and they replace my HR21-100 with a HR22, that would not be good. Guess I would be better off waitng for the new DVR to have plenty in the system before calling. :(

    I have both DVRs paired with eSATA HDs and no network connections.
     
  17. Mike Greer

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    You'd think that if anyone out there really believed they had a 'fast' receiver they'd do it... But I understand the hesitation - people get nasty very quickly around here if you don't agree.:nono2: God knows I've been chastised enough for complaining about how slow they are!

    Maybe if enough people bitch and moan about it DirecTV will finally give in and do something about it. I'm sure they don't want to have what many categorize as 'slow' receivers. How many new threads are there a week complaining about slowdowns and/or boxes that don't respond to the remotes?

    Maybe it is a conspiracy set up by the battery industry… How many people constantly replace the remote batteries trying to figure out why they are having troubles? :lol:

    Maybe if or when the new DirecTivo arrives it get past this – I’m not a Tivo die-hard but it sure would be nice to just sit down and watch TV!
     
  18. Mike Bertelson

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    My HR20 is the fastest receiver I own. I wish my HR21 & HR23 were that fast. Alas, I don't think it will ever be as fast.

    The HR20 has a different chip set then the later versions of the HR2x. The BCM7038/BCM7411 in the HR20 vs the BCM7401 for the subsequent receivers.

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  19. Mike Greer

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    By just the first days polls results in BattleScott's speed polls I think I can withdraw my request for the video of a 'fast' HR2x receiver.

    Let's just hope they'll either speed them up soon or that the new Tivo will be fast, arrive on-time (oops), and not to darn expensive!
     
  20. Mike Bertelson

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    You didn't get any speed increase out of the NR? My HR21 & HR23 are faster then they've been in at least a year.

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