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HR23-700 First Look: DRAFT

Discussion in 'DIRECTV - HR23 Discussion (private)' started by Doug Brott, Jul 30, 2008.

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  1. Jul 30, 2008 #1 of 109
    Doug Brott

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    Folks .. I think it's time for us to get started with a First Look for the HR23-700. Time for all the Tech Writers to step up :) Let's hear it.
     
  2. Jul 30, 2008 #2 of 109
    LarryFlowers

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    Doug, I am willing to write a first look, but are you saying we are done? We haven't really done anything yet.
     
  3. Jul 30, 2008 #3 of 109
    Stuart Sweet

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    DBSTalk.com is proud to present the latest and greatest DVR from DIRECTV, the HR23-700!

    The HR23-700 is manufactured by Pace for DIRECTV. Externally, it bears a very close resemblance to an HR21 from the front. However, as can be seen from this picture, the organization of the rear panel has changed. HR23s are a new design with a completely different mainboard, and the ports have been rearranged into a more logical format.

    The most important differences between HR23 and HR21 receivers are the ability to handle Ka/Ku signals without a B-Band converter, and a 500GB hard drive. By eliminating the BBCs, DIRECTV cuts costs as well as increasing reliability. While there have been very few reported failures of BBCs in the field, eliminating this step from installation should make for more satisfied customers. The 500GB hard drive provides a clear increase in capacity to unconfirmed number hours of MPEG4HD programming.

    Several testers also reported that video quality was improved from the HR21 series, especially in menus. Specifically, there appeared to be much better sharpness in high definition modes. In addition, some testers reported more consistent audio levels.

    Unboxing the HR23 was a straightforward experience. The DVR arrived in a plain brown box with the normal complement of cables (although no BBCs of course). Setup and operation of the HR23 was also extremely similar to other DVRs; there appears to be no difference in the setup routine.

    The AM21 off-air tuner connects easily and setup is quick and simple. Some testers reported a little better sensitivity from the AM21 compared to HR20-700. However, some testers reported decreased trickplay performance on OTA recordings.

    The biggest difference between HR23 and its HR20 and HR21 siblings is in the mainboard. This is a totally redesigned board and clearly has a reduced component count. Heat management has been significantly improved, and the HR23 has fewer vents than the HR21 (and many fewer than the HR20).

    Functionally, there is no difference between HR21 and HR23 receivers that our test team were able to see.

    This is just a draft...
     
  4. Jul 30, 2008 #4 of 109
    Mike Bertelson

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    For the HR21-100 we broke it up into sections.

    We each took part of it and submitted our sections to the writers(AirRocker & GWV IIRC) who edited and put it all together.

    I like this method because it gets different perspectives into the final review.

    I'll check when I get home but IIRC we had Introduction, Packaging, The Outside, The Inside, Conclusion.

    If you testers like this then I volunteer to do the Introduction.

    Larry, you seem to have volunteered already so would you be willing to produce the document?

    I'm open to however we want to do this. Anyone have any other suggestions?

    Mike
     
  5. Jul 30, 2008 #5 of 109
    LarryFlowers

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    I'll participate in any way asked...

    My experience with this unit has been excellent, and I have experienced none of the network problems or forced update problems that have been reported during the test.

    Frankly, while the unit does not have all the capabilities (yet) of my HR20-700, I feel this is truly a better unit. I am sure that lessons learned along the development path of the HR20 & 21 series has resulted in this excellent machine. As the unit stands right now for a more atypical user who is not looking for the stuff like widgets, pcplayback, daily fortune etc., the HR23-700 is by all appearances a rock solid unit and ready for prime time.

    Two things at this stage of testing stand out to me:
    1. Technical: the fact that the unit operates DRASTICALLY cooler than the others is a major plus
    2. The 500 GB hard drive should eliminate the use of most eSata drives for an average user. As a matter of fact, I would consider myself a high user and am finding that the combination of the HR23-700 (500GB) and the HR20-700 (320GB) is very adequate. I have a feeling that the combination of more MPEG4 and the 500GB is going to prove adequate for all but the most ardent of users.

    I am ready to participate in any way.
     
  6. Jul 30, 2008 #6 of 109
    Doug Brott

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    I'm not saying we're done yet, but things do seem to be settling. I see no reason to no be prepared.
     
  7. Jul 30, 2008 #7 of 109
    Doug Brott

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    I'm in agreement that the 500GB drive is a big plus .. I also think the removal of the BBCs is VERY good. Now you can just connect the coax without concern that the BBCs might be left off.
     
  8. Jul 30, 2008 #8 of 109
    say-what

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    I'm not a tech writer, but I'll help any way that I can
     
  9. Jul 30, 2008 #9 of 109
    gulfwarvet

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    i'll help out as much as i can, although it all depends on what the neurosurgeon tells me. so i may be a little out of it for a unknown period of time.
     
  10. Jul 30, 2008 #10 of 109
    Stuart Sweet

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    Don't worry, GWV, you've certainly done your part on first looks.
     
  11. Jul 30, 2008 #11 of 109
    bhelton71

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    I have nothing new to add :(

    My only issues have been (excluding the downloads of course)
    1) Speed with AM21 in operation - but this seems to be the same as the HR21 and not specific to the 23
    2) Mediashare video - and again the 23 is not up to the code level of the 20 so that is a given

    Other than those -
    in the primary task of receiving television from outer space - no problems for me.
    in the secondary task of recording - I have had no problem there either

    Its quiet, looks good (finally matches the rest of my components), one step less on the install than the HR20 (although in fairness thats just the bbc's) and who doesn't like additional drive space ?
     
  12. Jul 30, 2008 #12 of 109
    Stuart Sweet

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    I vote that should be the first line of the First Look. Well said!
     
  13. Jul 30, 2008 #13 of 109
    Coffey77

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    I may have missed it but is there any effect if the BBCs were connected? Double BBCs now... What if you have a BBC on there already and swap out a bad HR20 with a new HR23?

    Other than that, it's definately a very "clean" machine as far as I can tell.
     
  14. Jul 30, 2008 #14 of 109
    Stuart Sweet

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    I don't know if anyone's tried it but you probably get the same error message you get with the H23:
    [​IMG]

    Who wants to try it?
     
  15. Jul 30, 2008 #15 of 109
    Doug Brott

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    I was thinking the same thing, and that was even before I read Stuart's post .. very nice!
     
  16. Jul 30, 2008 #16 of 109
    Sharkie_Fan

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    I don't think I even have any BBCs left in the house. As soon as I went SWM, all the BBCs were banished from the house!
     
  17. Jul 30, 2008 #17 of 109
    Radio Enginerd

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    I totally want in on this... I haven't been much help with a First Look in the past and I'd like to put some ink on this bad boy.

    I'll take any section. I've been using it pretty heavily with an AM21 so I suppose I can add some detail there although not much different than the HR21-700 or -200.
     
  18. Jul 31, 2008 #18 of 109
    pdawg17

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    Let me know if any more help is needed...this is my first field trial so it's all new to me...although I've read every single "First Look" released on the site :)
     
  19. Jul 31, 2008 #19 of 109
    reweiss

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    I'd like to help write the 'first look'.

    Do you want to break up the overall document so that different people start work on different sections?
     
  20. Jul 31, 2008 #20 of 109
    bhelton71

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    You both are too kind - I unfortunately do not believe I can work omnibus or plenipotentiary into a workable description.:)
     
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