HR24 - Sell or trash?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by doabbs01, Nov 3, 2019.

  1. slice1900

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    Everything you list except possibly the HR20 (depending on when you acquired it) was not leased, those all predated when Directv receivers were leased. I assumed you were talking about newer stuff like HR24s.

    Buying new in box was never a problem to activate - it is only trying to activate a leased receiver that someone else had previously activated that was not something Directv permitted.
     
  2. SledgeHammer

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    Weren't the receivers always "leased"? I don't remember the details, but I remember a call with them where some issue came up and I was asked how much I paid for the HR20 and I said $199 and they said that's the lease price, the full price is like $600 or something.

    Weren't policies a lot more lax back in the day? Wasn't DirecTV the one that pushed eBay to stop allowing access cards to be sold and such due to piracy?
     
  3. carl6

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    Many years ago (in the days of the Sony boxes referenced, as well as HR10) all units were owned. Starting around the time of the HR20 is when leasing started. After that, until the AT&T takeover, it was still possible to buy an owned receiver (various channels, including employees selling their own equipment which was always owned, commercial accounts which had owned equipment, etc.). However, AT&T has put a total block on activating any used equipment unless it is an "official refurb" they ship out or send out on a truck roll. There is no longer any such thing as "owned" equipment.
     
  4. codespy

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    I'm offended. All of my HR24's are running rock solid with SSD's, and run circles around my other HR2x IRD's. I'm still on a DirecTV account, not AT&T. AT&T won't activate, but I thought some on legacy billing with DirecTV will still activate owned receivers with the access card in it?
     
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  5. SledgeHammer

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    Lol :D. You obviously had the same problem since you went through the hassle of sticking a SSD in there. Hope your HR24 is owned as modifying a leased receiver is against the TOS :D.

    Really, I only had the HR24, so it cost me $20 to upgrade for S&H + $3/mo. Besides the slow AH response time, I also occasionally ran into tuner conflicts. Not regular enough to make me upgrade, the 30 second response time is what made me want to upgrade. But both problems were solved.
     
  6. Rich

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    That was my assumption too since the context was about HRs. I've bought and sold a lot of DVRs over the years, I know how hard it is to sell or activate a leased HR. That context really changed quickly, didn't it?

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  7. Rich

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    Have you ever seen a 30 second delay when you press a button on the remote when using a 24? I haven't. All your SSDs are mounted externally, aren't they?

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  8. codespy

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    Correct, with the SSD’s, the response is typically immediate. All my SSD’s are in external docks after my initial experiment of installing one inside. That did some damage due to overheating.

    @Sledge- most of my boxes are owned and I originally modded them with bigger hard drives until I went the SSD route thanks to Rich’s tip. I also replace my own fans when they die, so I can keep my recordings and not have to go thru the hassle of replacement receiver for bad fans under the protection plan. That saves DIRECTV money.

    Years ago I also emailed tech support at DIRECTV asking if they had an issue if I replaced a bad fan in one of my leased receivers. They never emailed or called back indicating I could not. Oh well....:)
     
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  9. b4pjoe

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    My wife's HR24 has an SSD and we were getting really slow responses from the remote. Not 30 seconds but very slow and sometimes we would get nothing when pressing a button and would have to press it a second time to get it to take the button press. On Monday I got on chat and requested a replacement remote and got it on Wednesday. Much improved now. Button presses take immediately.
     
  10. P Smith

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    I would check batteries first; second - open the remote and cleanup contacts
    working 100 % if your remote have no damaged PCB by leakage from dead batteries
     
  11. Rich

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    Had you replaced the batteries in the old remote? Sure sounds like bad batteries. I had similar symptoms with a 24-200 and had to replace the box. Tried a new remote and the issue did not go away. Tried everything I could think of and still had to replace the box.

    Yeah, 30 seconds is a whole lot longer than folks think it is. I get the hyperbole, if folks are gonna complain it sounds better to make it worse than it is but 30 seconds is beyond belief when it comes to remote commands. That happens you have a very serious problem. Glad you got the problem resolved so easily.

    Rich
     
  12. b4pjoe

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    Yes I had tried different batteries more than once. The wife is happy now which means I am happy now. :)
     
  13. MysteryMan

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    Whenever my wife is unhappy I just tell her to go cry on a bag of money.
     
  14. SledgeHammer

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    I also replaced a fan in mine. Not worth the hassle of dealing with DTV for a few bucks. For $50 to $100 to try to resurrect a HR24? Yeah, that's DTVs problem. Besides, I got the extra tuners in my free upgrade to Genie (again, no PP). You don't need PP to get receiver upgrades unless maybe you have a ton of boxes.

    PP is a money grab scam. I've had a receiver replaced for free with no PP. Cables are all in wall so the chance of them ever going bad is super low. Besides, you think the PP would re-run them in wall and replace all the drywall, etc? I'm guessing they'd just string 'em up on the outside of your house all sloppy like. YUCK!

    I have a co-worker that goes through tons of electronics cuz his kid throws stuff around all the time. PP might be good for him. But I suspect there is a deductible or max on the premiere one that would cover all his stuff?

    Are your boxes still considered owned under AT&T?
     
  15. codespy

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    I’m still on DIRECTV billing, not morphed to ATT, thank god. I still get to use the older DIRECTV website too. So yes, most still remain owned.
     
  16. Rich

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    Great!

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  17. dreadlk

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    I don’t use stock Directv remotes. I always use a Harmony remote. I have owned HR-20/23/24/54 and C61k.

    Call me odd but my go to unit is almost always the HR-24. I hate the guide and menus on the HR-54 and C61k. I have never had slow responses as described here with the 24 no ssd btw. It is not as fast as the 54 but it is not that big a difference to make me want to deal with the HR54 guide. As for 4K it has been a complete bust for me. I stopped watching sports years ago, and that is really the only thing worthwhile in 4K.
     
  18. Rich

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    I do watch a lot of sports and I'd much rather use a 24 to view that content. The utter stupidity of saddling the best DVRs D* has ever made with that awful GUI never ceases to amaze me. I do have SSDs on all the HRs I use and the difference in speed between the 24s and the 44 is so small it doesn't bother me. The past 15-16 months have been the best D* experience I've ever had. All because I got curious about SSDs. I have more issues with my ATVs than I do with my HRs (except that 24-200, that thing is enough to drive to drink). That is a statement I never thought I'd be able to make. Curiosity is a wonderful thing at times.

    Rich
     
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  19. Rich

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    Nothing "odd" about it. Mark of intelligence, I think.

    Rich
     
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  20. dreadlk

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    Thanks for the kind words Rich.
    I would switch to SSD drives if I had a bit more confidence in my future with DTV. I honestly find myself using it less and less and watching streaming services more and more. Sat and Cable are really going to have to up their game if they hope to survive. The first thing is the price. The heavy handed bundling and price gouging has to stop. I know it’s not DTV fault but someone has to wake the programming cartels up and let them know that they need to rein in their charges and break up grouping channels that nobody really cares about.
     

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