HR2x and H2x: MRV Opt-In Beta Issues/Discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by Stuart Sweet, Jan 17, 2010.

  1. Feb 3, 2010 #261 of 422

    pappy97 Icon

    Nov 14, 2009
    Got it this morning and opted in on both HD-DVR's (HR22) tonight. Both DVR's see each other and that's fine. This is wireless, 5ghz ONLY 802.11n network

    Problem comes with playback (only HD since the DVR I use as a "server" only has HD content). I can play a movie/tv show whatever that is from the other DVR, and can pause it, but I cannot FF. If I FF I see the time bar move (but no FF'ing, the picture and sound are paused). When I press play the time bar goes back to the original time, the screen goes back, and then I am back on the info screen with an "Unable to access media." If I exit out to live tv and try to come back and play something from the server DVR, it won't play and I am told to check the network with relation to the server DVR.

    At that point, I can't watch anything off the server DVR until I reboot the server DVR.

    Any possible causes for the problem here? I'd love to use MRV, but FF for TV shows is kind of important. Thanks.
  2. Feb 3, 2010 #262 of 422

    Richierich Hall Of Fame

    Jan 10, 2008
    What kind of Router do you have?

    I have a Linksys WRT610N and I set up all of my DVRs with Static IP Addresses either by using DHCP Reservations and going in to each DVR in the Advanced Setup Menu in MultiRoom and writing down the assigned IP Address and then including it in the Router's DHCP Reservations List or by assigning it an IP Address outside of the DHCP Range, ie. .100-.149 so assign it .150 or .151, etc.

    Then Reboot everything including DVRs and Router and let sit awhile since it takes some time to reacquire and post the acquired DVRs in the Status List.

    You are getting a DTCP Content Error Message because the IP Address has changed since the recording was created and the IP Addresses now conflict and DTCP will not allow that association as they have to be the same.
  3. Feb 3, 2010 #263 of 422

    wallybarthman Godfather

    Feb 4, 2009
    I currently have my two HR-22's networked via 100 Mbit wired ethernet. They're on the same network as everything else (a couple computers wired and wirelss, PS3, AppleTV, two iPhones, etc.) It works just fine - minus the pixelation reported by others.

    My question is this - would running a second wired line between the two HR-22's (connected with a switch and the switch connected to the main network) improve my response time to ffwds and reduce the occasional pixelation? Essentially would putting them on their own subnet help?

    My personal hunch is no - since I'm guessing there's not much competition for network traffic when everything else is just internet access, but thought I'd ask.
  4. Feb 3, 2010 #264 of 422

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Dec 9, 2006
    I used the MPEG-2 HD [channels in the 70s] to test my network, since it's a higher bit rate. Discovery HD theater is a good one to use.
    With it and this version, I had flawless playback and didn't see trickplay issues either.
  5. Feb 3, 2010 #265 of 422

    dally7777 Mentor

    Nov 19, 2008
    Are you serious that Directv set up MRV that way? DTCP IP conflict?

    In the world of randomly changing IPs; this is the best DirecTV could come up with :-(

    Sadly, it is Time to Opt-Out if that is the fix.
  6. Feb 3, 2010 #266 of 422

    Richierich Hall Of Fame

    Jan 10, 2008
    This is speculation on my part and some others that brainstormed this problem awhile back and this is the Solution we came up with and I haven't had a problem since and neither has anyone who has followed my recommendations.

    This is why the Deca Solution will probably be the Best way to enjoy MRV without alot of Pain and Suffering associated with Networks per se.
  7. Feb 3, 2010 #267 of 422

    pappy97 Icon

    Nov 14, 2009
    I am using a D-Link DGL-4500 (Xtreme N Gaming Router).

    Living room DVR and blu ray player connected to a switch which is connected to Linksys wireless N bridge.

    HT DVR, PS3, and 360 connected to a switch which is connected to a Cisco wireless N bridge.

    Seems odd that my issue would be an IP address issue considering the issue only arises when I try to FF. I can watch recordings off my DVR just fine, and pause, as long as I don't fast forward. That's my only problem.

    Sounds like I might have to make my Cisco wireless N bridge have a static IP, I dunno. Lot of hassle though, I know DirecTV wants everyone to use their solution, but seriously, they can't have this work with DHCP (as someone said, randomly changing IP addresses)?

    I may just give up on using my HT room DVR as a server or client in MRV, and wait until my HD non-dvr receiver in the bedroom receives the update and gets the update and see if that will work with me using the living room dvr as the server. That's my main purpose anyways, as the misses only sets up recordings on the living room DVR and wants to watch those DVR'ed shows in the bedroom from time to time.
  8. Feb 3, 2010 #268 of 422

    usnret Icon

    Jan 16, 2009
    MRV between my HR22 and R22 (HD) works well when the program is SD. Pause, FF, etc. work fine. When I watch a HD program though, when I pause then hit play it jumps forward and is then hard to find the spot again. If this problem could be fixed I might actually be willing to pay a small monthly sum for the service. Otherwise I'll put up with the problem and hope that I don't have to use the "facilities" during the program.
  9. Feb 3, 2010 #269 of 422

    nn8l Legend

    Sep 7, 2007
    I have an HR20, HR21, and R22 all sharing without any problems. Like others I've noticed problems with trick play. Since many of us purchased a dvr so we can ff and rewind, is this something that we can expect to be improved upon, or is it just the nature of the beast?
  10. Feb 3, 2010 #270 of 422

    DogLover Hall Of Fame

    Mar 18, 2007
    I would expect improvements in trickplay.
  11. Feb 3, 2010 #271 of 422

    digdug73 Cool Member

    Aug 18, 2007
    Don't know if its just me, but I keep reading about all the problems with trick play (ff and rewind). I never use these except for skip to tick. the 30 sec skip and replay seem to work flawlessly.
  12. Feb 3, 2010 #272 of 422

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Dec 9, 2006
    It's not "just you". I use 30skip mostly, but have also tried FF without problems.
    Trickplay can have bursts/peaks over 20 Mb/s, which may be some of the problems others are having.
  13. Feb 4, 2010 #273 of 422

    Gocanes AllStar

    Jul 15, 2007
    I've been testing MRV for a few days now and other than a few quick audio and/or video glitches it seems to work well (all MPEG-4 1080i shows) except for the autocorrect. I've got an HR20 and HR22 on a hard wired gigabit network. When using FF, the autocorrect seems to jump ahead (a lot) instead of back. If they can fix this it would be worth a couple of bucks a month. It is especially useful for the times when I want to record 3 shows at once (which I did before on the two DVRs) but watch all of them in my family room.

    For a Beta version it works pretty well. I prefer to use my own network instead of DECA partly because of all the hours I spent pulling Cat 6 cable through the walls and attic in anticipation of MRV.
  14. Feb 4, 2010 #274 of 422

    pappy97 Icon

    Nov 14, 2009
    Without making any changes (or even rebooting the server DVR from the previous night), I tried to watch a program again via MRV.

    It seemed to work fine, and instead of FF I used 30 second skip and was able to successfully 30 skip several times. But the 5th or 6th time I did it, the picture froze, the time bar reverted back a few minutes, and it went off like before "Unable to access media. ." (yes the sentence looks just like that with the period, space, and then another period).

    I am wondering if I have a network speed issue that affects MRV. The server DVR is on the second floor of my house, far from the router (first floor office) and the living room (Client DVR). I haven't tested the lan speeds, but I know that I have Verizon FIOS 50/20 internet, but at the server DVR when I do a broadband speed test, I only get 10/10. The client DVR is sufficiently close enough to the router that it suffers no speed reduction. Maybe I can assume that my LAN speeds with respect to the server DVR also take a big hit??

    Maybe it's just as simple as the wireless n bridge for my server DVR is simply too far away from the router? If that's the case no biggie, because the living room is very close to the bedroom which is close enough to the office that it shouldn't be a problem once the non-DVR HD receivers (H21/H23) get the update. Maybe it's fast enough to play an HD program and pause, but not to FF/30 sec skip?
  15. Feb 4, 2010 #275 of 422

    Rockermann Legend

    Aug 9, 2007
    Gotta say, I'm loving MRV. I have two HR21s setup on my wired home network. Very few problems with network congestion. A macroblock here or there. Plus, I love looking at the List in the heart of primetime and seeing four red lights. :)
  16. Feb 4, 2010 #276 of 422

    flogduh Legend

    Nov 3, 2005

    If it helps anyone, my network config seems to be rock solid, with no problems recognizing either of my 2 DVRs for MRV. Response times accessing programing from a remote DVR seems little different than accessing the local DVR .

    My network set up takes the DSL signal to an 8 port 10/100 switch which distributes to eight locations around the home. Each DVR has it's own connection to it's own dedicated distribution point. Additionally, I have a Linksys 610N dual band router at another distribution end point and a PC and networked printer connected there. I can run DIREC2PC from that PC as well, either hardwired or wireless with no issues.
  17. Feb 4, 2010 #277 of 422

    looter Godfather

    Oct 1, 2007
    Anyone using Airport Extreme 802.11n and Airport Express 802.11n? I'd like to hear your results.
  18. Feb 4, 2010 #278 of 422

    GLJones AllStar

    Feb 12, 2008
    I have an Airport Extreme and Airport Express (802.11n) connecting an H21-100 to the rest of the network. Two HR-21-700s DVRs are hard-wired using gigabit ethernet. Everything works as described by folks here. A few blocky occurrences per 30 minutes and the FF, RR and 30-sec skip work but have a lag to them, due to the network.
  19. Feb 4, 2010 #279 of 422

    RaceTripper Legend

    Sep 15, 2007
    See my post from earlier this week. I describe my setup and experiences, using Airport Extreme, Time Capsule, and WGA600N all with 802.11n.
  20. Feb 4, 2010 #280 of 422
    Kansas Zephyr

    Kansas Zephyr Hall Of Fame

    Jun 29, 2007
    Needless to say, this is a very long forgive me if this has been asked.

    Are there specific ports that need to be opened on my router?

    I've been using DoD (and the media share beta) with no issues for some time, on the two HR-20s with wireless networking.

    I've opted-in on both boxes, a few days ago...yet, it says "No Networked DVRs Found".


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