HR2x and H2x: MRV Opt-In Beta Issues/Discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by Stuart Sweet, Jan 17, 2010.

  1. mopzo

    mopzo Legend

    Jun 15, 2007
    Update: Ran a temp Cat5 cable from the family room DVR to the router. Immediately the DVR's saw each other. Can anyone provide an explanation on why the Powerline adaptors won't allow the DVR's to see each other?
  2. pappy97

    pappy97 Icon

    Nov 14, 2009
    So I did the swap and I think I found the problem.

    The swap revealed the reverse results (same problem, just switched to different dvr's).

    So at the living room dvr, I tried connecting the bridge directly to the dvr. Then I had no problem either way. Put the switch back and the problem at one surfaces.

    I suppose the problem is that particular switch. It's a 10/100 switch, D-Link DES-1105. I don't understand though. It's not like replacing it with a gigabit switch should theoretically help, right? After all, the DVR's NIC is 10/100, so why would it matter if the switch is gigabit?

    Can anyone shed any light on this now that I have isolated the issue as being the switch (since connecting the bridge to the living room dvr directly solves all problems, even though the HT DVR is behind a switch, albeit a Cisco 10/100 switch)? Thanks!!

    As a refresher, here's my setup

    Living Room DVR -> 10/100 D-Link Switch -> (now) Cisco Wireless N 5 Ghz bridge

    HT DVR -> 10/100 Cisco Switch -> (now) Linksys Wireless N 5 Ghz bridge

    both connect wirelessly to D-Link DGL-4500 dual band router (which is in 5Ghz N mode only).

  3. nzone

    nzone Cool Member

    Dec 14, 2006
    I have an HR20-700 and a HR22-100, both wired. On the HR20 I can watch everything flawlessly from the HR22 but if I try to watch something on the HR22 from the HR20 I get a grey blank screen then a scene may come up and sits their, like its extreme lag. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

    Router is a D-link DIR-615 10/100
  4. mjwagner

    mjwagner Icon

    Oct 8, 2005
    You are giving the average user way to much credit. In my experience 8 out of 10 average users don't even know what a MAC address is. I have never had a problem attributable to MAC filtering. I would be very interested to hear what issues you claim MAC filtering will cause.
  5. jdjeff

    jdjeff Mentor

    Sep 20, 2007
    Just to drop in a non-network issue report, all my dvr's are set up to share their playlists and to allow remote delete. When I delete something remotely, it disappears from the playlist. When I go back into the playlist later, all that previously deleted stuff has returned. No, kids...don't look at that!:eek2:
  6. bobcamp1

    bobcamp1 Icon

    Nov 8, 2007
    If you already have it working, there's no need to disable it.

    The problem with it is that it's too complex for Joe Six Pack to set up. They frequently mistype the address, or simply can't find it. Or later they add a new device and forget that it's on, then they think the new device is broken.

    Worse, it doesn't provide any protection. You don't even have to be a hacker. If you Google it, you can find demonstrations and step-by-step instructions to show you how to bypass MAC filtering. It is really easy.

    There is another more effective way to block out an average Joe AND hackers at the same time: turn on encryption.
  7. Richierich

    Richierich Hall Of Fame

    Jan 10, 2008
    I have WPA2 Encryption and along with Mac Filtering I feel fairly safe. In fact my neighbor's daughter called and asked if she could get onto my Network and I told her it was Private and I didn't allow anyone else on it so I know she couldn't get on it.
  8. Kansas Zephyr

    Kansas Zephyr Hall Of Fame

    Jun 29, 2007
    I never got an answer on this. Do network services need to be running for MRV?

  9. RAD

    RAD Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2002
  10. jaguar325

    jaguar325 Legend

    Jan 2, 2006
    I had power-line working between 3 DVRs but just switched over to Cat 6 for a combination of reasons. I am not sure why yours won't work but will give some details here on my power-line setup in case it provides you some clues.

    I have an HR20 and HR22 very close to each other, they were directly connected (port 2 of one connected to port 1 of the other) and the first one had a connection to the power-line adapter. On that end, I had a NetGear 200Mbts adapter w/ built-in 4-port switch and it was communicating to the network via a single-port 200Mbts adapter near the router. The NetGear software was telling me I was only getting about 40-60Mbts throughput (I figured due to congestion where all my A/V equipment and/or that outlet being on a different breaker panel). To test the 3rd DVR (HR20) I had to run a cable across the floor back to the router (no easy way to run permanent cable over there). They were all able to see each other with this setup and I ran some tests with HD movies - no issues. The router is an old Linksys WRT54 which I plan to replace.

    I've now replaced the NetGear "switch" with hard-wired Cat 6 connections with the first two - working great. The third one is going to be a bit trickier - tradeoff between $$$ for DECA or power-line or suck it up and cut the ceiling open.. I have been wavering back and forth. I am reusing the NetGear up in my office since the wireless radio on my laptop is weak and I can double internet speed by connecting it with a cable to a wireless or power-line device.

    There has to be a simple explanation for your situation... I would try reset to see if that clears it up. During the past week, I've had both of my most-used DVRs lose contact with the other (at different times) and this resulted in one seeing the other but not vice versa.

    Good luck!

  11. timf

    timf Legend/Supporter DBSTalk Gold Club

    Apr 21, 2002
    I've been trying MRV and have been having issues streaming from my DVR with an external hard drive. The video breaks up every couple of seconds. Sometimes it's watchable with a little annoyance, while other times it is completely unwatchable. It's important to note that this hard drive has never worked perfectly since I first added it. The picture glitches occasionally, and sometimes the controls will become unresponsive, but it's been usable for the most part and I've gotten used to the quirks. Adding MRV to the equation simply seems to amplify the problems. I'm removing the hard drive for now (I don't really need the extra space with all my DVRs linked together now) and am seeing if it works any better.
  12. mopzo

    mopzo Legend

    Jun 15, 2007
    Thanks for the response. I hadn't considered a reset. Both DVRs have inet connectivity. I would really like this to work. Going totally wireless will render Direct2PC and MRV useless.
  13. thekochs

    thekochs DirecTV 10yr+ Customer

    Oct 7, 2006
    Wanted to post some issues.....think everyone know how slow the 30-second slip and FF/RW function is across MRV.

    I also found that if I use the 30slip to forward to the end of a program I'm watching on MRV that it hangs at the end.....I have to hit the play button to get the HR23-700 to come back and ask me if I want to delete or not. I'm sure this may have something to do with the response but wanted to send note.

    Next, I see breakups in HD intermitantly.....and I DO have the three HR23-700s (all new) hooked to a GigE switch that is isolated to just this function. I go back and look at the origional recording on the native box and the pixelation is not there. Most of the times the pixelation is in the movement part of the scene and although I'm not an MPEG4 expert I do know that the movement items (eg forground vs background) is encoded/handled different. Having delt with alot of HTPC and MediaShare streaming apps it almost appears that the chipset in the serving STB is not keeping up with the streaming requests. Note, this happens with nobody using the Native box that is doing the fact it is powered off....or as we know in STBY. This issue may be another "priority" and BETA firmware issue but it will happen 2-3 times in any giving 30 minute show. Since I have three new HR23-700s all running MRV I've tried different boxes being client versus server and get intermittant pixelation no matter which. Since I'm only doing one show (HD) and no other activity I know it's not a network issue.

    Hope this helps DirecTV
  14. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Dec 9, 2006
    This is a known issue and is being addressed. Look for this to be resolved in the next release.
  15. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    WPA2 security should cover that. It should also NOT interfere in any way with the operation of your MRV beta.
  16. DennisMileHi

    DennisMileHi Cool Member

    Aug 29, 2007
    After being gone for a few days, I came home to find my MRV not working. The Status message stated No Networked DVRs Found even though both of them were network connected. After fiddling around trying many things like setting up the network connection again, opting in and out of MRV, and a few RBRs, MRV started working again. I have NO idea why or what I did.

    The BIG problem now for me is in the process of doing that, my ESATA drive on one of the DVRS lost all the data there: Playlists, Series, etc. Bummer! It is still working but nothing is there. I now have to go set up series again, wait for the Guide data to refresh... and mostly I have lost about 30 movies and quite a few shows that I had recorded.

    I guess Opting in to a BETA MRV software can really have a downside. For me, it sure did!! What a pain!
  17. tnflyboy

    tnflyboy Mentor

    Dec 9, 2007
    I have been running the MRV beta since i got the downloads.
    I didnt try to read the 15 pages of posts, so sorry for any repeats.

    MRV is working good for me.
    I see slowness in response to remote command when watching a show on any remote DVR.
    I experience hiccups and slight pixelation maybe once or twice for most HD shows.
    I am running a wired network with gigabit speed.

    The skip forward is not so good.
    Just some of my experiences.
    I think this technology is some of the best technology DirecTV has released lately. I use to record the same show to multiple DVRs not knowing what room I would watch in.
    Just need to smooth out some of the issues and this will be a big win for us viewers.
  18. ZPrime

    ZPrime Cool Member

    Feb 15, 2010
    Just signed up here to post that this feature will probably get me to switch from my current Time Warner multi-room setup (using TivoHDs) over to DTV.

    This is mostly because TimeWarner has been an absolute joke around here, and I'm not pleased at the price difference, but at least I'll be getting a few more HD channels for it.

    I'm an experienced IT guy so "beta" doesn't scare me. ;)
  19. nzone

    nzone Cool Member

    Dec 14, 2006
    I have an HR20-700 and a HR22-100, both wired. I can watch stuff on the HR20 using MRV but not the HR22.

    Has anybody experienced this were you select a show and it seems like it starts but nothing ever comes up just a blank gray screen,
  20. DrEricCarlson

    DrEricCarlson Legend

    Mar 6, 2007
    I set up MRV with my 2 DVRs (HR20-700, HR21-100) and it was working great then all of a sudden then two DVRs could not see each other any more. This has gone on for days now. Both are connected to the Internet and can download OnDemand material and both pass the network services test but they just don't see each other. The DVRs are both hardwired to my Netgear router with a switch in front of one of the DVRs. I have tried resetting my router many times but that has not helped. I haven't tried resetting my DVRs yet (I hate waiting for the system to reboot) but I will try that tonight. Any other suggestions?

    I have also thought about getting a better router like a D-link DGL-4100 since my current Netgear router always drops my wireless connection to my computer. Any suggestions on routers that work well with MRV? Should I get a gigabit router or is that overkill?

    -Dr Eric

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