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HR2x and H2x: MRV Opt-In Beta Issues/Discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by Stuart Sweet, Jan 17, 2010.

  1. Jan 23, 2010 #41 of 422

    zudy Legend

    Jul 22, 2009
    I got the update and i already had my 2 HD DVR networked with WET610N. They worked great for ONDamand but are very hit or miss with Multi room. I have only watched about 10 min of a show from my other HD DVR and it was good but now I always get uable to acces bedroom DVR. Any tips? I have at&t and the 2wire modem.
  2. Jan 23, 2010 #42 of 422
    Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Jul 12, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Try resetting both receivers once more .. This may free up the 'unable to access' problem.
  3. Jan 23, 2010 #43 of 422

    djrobx Godfather

    Jan 26, 2009
    For everyone who's going to be trying MRV for the first time - minor, periodic blips in the video are a well known issue, even on hardwired networks. Don't go too crazy trying to track down problems in your network. Even if you connect your receivers directly together with a crossover cable, you will probably still see this behavior.

    There also seem to be a variety of issues that resolve themselves by rebooting the receivers (and it's very difficult to tell which machine needs rebooting). Generally once you get it going it's pretty stable though.
  4. Jan 23, 2010 #44 of 422
    Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Jul 12, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Wireless-G will be very spotty .. perhaps only good for SD recordings. Wireless-N works better but is still susceptible to interruptions. DECA will be the best experience (not available yet) and then wired. However, your router and/or switch must be capable of maintaining a continuous data rate.
  5. Jan 23, 2010 #45 of 422

    Steve Well-Known Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    Excellent advice. Unless you were having issues with your wireless or powerline network connections pre-MRV, it's probably premature at this point to start reconfiguring or upgrading your network to resolve sporadic pixelaton or trickplay issues. Once the MRV code is finalized, you may discover your network is just fine as currently configured and whatever issues you were having have been resolved with software upgrades.
  6. Jan 23, 2010 #46 of 422

    MrDad0330 Godfather

    Jun 16, 2007
    Etters, Pa
    dvd, I think you are correct. My DVR's (hr20-100 &hr22-100) do see each other but I can get nothing to play. They both go thru a power line adapter to the master adapter that takes off from my router. I have a h21-100 in my bedroom hard wired to my router and it sees both my HR's and plays from either. This is nice since it is not a dvr but I can watch my recordings. Also i do not always get a steady picture in HD but I think it may be a function of the slower "D" PL adapters.
  7. Jan 23, 2010 #47 of 422

    KenW Legend

    Nov 16, 2005
    I'm thinking about getting a new HD receiver to replace an old modulator I've been using to distribute signals from my two HD DVR's. I already have Coax and ethernet connections. I have a gigabit network, and I'm not worried about the fee.

    My only real doubt is the free HD receiver that DirecTV offers. As you know, they don't tell you what model you will receive, so I'm a little worried they won't send one that will support MRV. I did see they plan to have some offer, but free sounds good to me (yes I know it's not really "free".)

    I'll likely set it up to show just the programs on my wife's DVR during the week, until she gets used to it. I'd like to be able to switch DVR's from the HD receiver, and only see hers when she is watching, and mine when I'm watching, but switching back-and-forth sounds like it will be a pain.

    Anything I'm missing?
  8. Jan 23, 2010 #48 of 422

    Steve Well-Known Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    If I'm not mistaken, there are no "new" HD receivers that won't support MRV. So unless they plan to send you a refurb'd H20, I wouldn't worry. You'll probably get an H21, H23 or maybe even the newest one, the H24, and any of them will be suitable MRV clients.
  9. Jan 23, 2010 #49 of 422

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    Any HD receiver or HD DVR supporting MPEG4 (with an Ethernet port) should work.
  10. Jan 23, 2010 #50 of 422

    w6fxj DBSTalk Club Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Just a quick report on an anomaly seen on an HR20-700 when I opted in with MRV. I have two DVR's opted in. One is an HR20-100 connected to the home network via a wireless-N connection to a DLink DIR825 router. The second is an HR20-700 connected directly to the router.

    I am able to play both SD and HD recorded programs from either DVR to the other DVR. From the HR20-700 to the HR20-100 via wireless N appears to work fine. On the HR20-700 however, if I play a recorded program from the other DVR, the HDMI output from the HR20-700 starts going to a black screen every second for a short period (50 - 100 ms).

    The black screen every second continues no matter what is done with the receiver. Real time, playback or even a Menu screen! It takes rebooting the HR20-700 to get the one second black screen stopped. Then it works OK until I try to playback a program from the MRV connected DVR. It does not matter whether the MRV connected DVR is "on" or "off," recording or not.

    It happens on whatever HDMI monitor I connect to the HR-20-700. If I try to use MRV the DVR goes into the One Second Black Screen routine and continues until rebooted.
  11. Jan 23, 2010 #51 of 422

    opelap Legend

    Nov 4, 2006
    This makes no sense to me. The DVR should be sending data to another IP address which goes through the master, to the router, back out the master, to the other DVR.

    If your theory was the case, when you put two powerline adapters on two computers, they would not be able to transfer files.

    As far as I know, the two DVRs do not create another connection directly, because even if they are on wireless adapters, they can't do it. All traffic goes through the router no matter how it gets there.

  12. Jan 24, 2010 #52 of 422

    kmattoo AllStar

    Aug 6, 2008
    Per the other thread, I've been asked to put this here:

    my MRV has been working pretty well (besides the typical pauses/sound issues) thus far. I have 2 DVRs: one in the family room and one in the office.

    however, after my wife watched an episode on MRV downstairs (while live tv is being watched on the office tv), she started to watch another show and found that it would not play.

    The episode had the red symbol (stop?) next to the episode title and when you tried to play the program the following popup came up: The program can't be played because too many programs are being watched from playlist: OFFICE.

    On the Office DVR, the only thing being watched is live tv. If I turn off the Office DVR, the family room DVR continues to get the same message.

    Any thoughts?

    Both are HR21/200 both w/ the current software.

    A reboot of the Office DVR was suggested. (which I will complete after the first NFL Playoff game)
  13. Jan 24, 2010 #53 of 422

    Richierich Hall Of Fame

    Jan 10, 2008
    Yes, the Data Steam was not successfully ended and the DVR still thinks it is streaming data so it will not let you start another stream.

    A Simple RBR or Menu Restart of the Office DVR will Clear up the situation.
  14. Jan 24, 2010 #54 of 422

    aandjw Mentor

    Nov 29, 2005
    IT'S THE PANASONIC UNITS! I too couldn't get MRV to work - the same sort of scenario (HR21/200 and HR20/700 using Panasonic PowerLine adapters)....switched one unit to old Linksys WGA54AG gaming bridge and bingo! all content from both DVRs is now on the playlist!
  15. Jan 24, 2010 #55 of 422

    kmattoo AllStar

    Aug 6, 2008
    The reboot worked.
  16. Jan 24, 2010 #56 of 422

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Dec 9, 2006
    No Microsoft didn't write the software, but sometimes they act like it. :lol:
  17. Jan 24, 2010 #57 of 422

    Richierich Hall Of Fame

    Jan 10, 2008
    Always make sure you successfully end an MRV Session and don't just Pause it and walk away from it. Exit out of it until you are certain you are in Live TV.

    It can't run two streams from the same Server and if it detects that it still has one active then it will give you the Red Sign and only a Reboot will make it go away.
  18. Jan 24, 2010 #58 of 422

    HoTat2 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 16, 2005
    You're right, sorry :eek:

    Please disregard my earlier statement on this issue at least for these Panny model PowerLine adapters, as my HD-DVRs are now seeing each other under MRV through the adapters, though for some reason it took several hours after the beta opt-in of each receiver for this to occur thus I theorized too early it turns out what I thought was the possible reason the adapters would not function for MRV in my in previous post.

    Of course its all for not anyhow as the adapters are wholly incapable of supporting the MRV streaming as HD programs won't stream at all and SD ones constantly freeze 'n go.

    So needless to say I definitely need DECA here ...
  19. Jan 24, 2010 #59 of 422

    dvdmth Icon

    Jul 24, 2008
    Denver, CO
    Powerline is very sensitive to the electrical wiring. I have powerline adapters and have run speed tests on them. In my household, if both adapters were on the same circuit, I would see data rates around 30Mbps. If they were on different circuits, they either wouldn't work at all or would get less than 5Mbps. The adapters are supposed to support up to 200Mbps in ideal situations.

    I used to use powerline to network one of our DVR's (for On Demand) but recently switched to MoCA (over cable TV coax) to get better performance. DECA is essentially MoCA over SWM.
  20. Jan 25, 2010 #60 of 422

    jsmuga Godfather

    Jan 3, 2008
    New Hope, PA
    I have 3 STB's hard wired and 3 STB's using wireless n. The MRV worked great all weekend no issues at all.

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