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HR2x and R22 0x0290 - Discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. Oct 22, 2008 #21 of 112

    aeffen Cool Member

    Aug 4, 2005
    Well I turned the box on this morning and actually shook it and all of a sudden the ota's appeared.
    Still no luck on getting it to recognize my kds60a3000 as capable of doing 1080p which I believe it is.

    On the esta issue, I had to turn off my freeagent and then turn it back on and do a menu reboot to get it recognized.:)
  2. Oct 22, 2008 #22 of 112

    hiker Icon

    Mar 1, 2006
    Now you can see the song titles on XM channels when screen saver cuts in. There is a small moving window with the titles. Is this different from pre-290 releases? Great new feature except I am now heading for the dramamine. :D
  3. Oct 22, 2008 #23 of 112

    eneg Mentor

    Mar 14, 2007
    Okay, my TV supports 1080p/24.
    My DVR agrees.

    Where can I download some 1080p material???


  4. Oct 22, 2008 #24 of 112

    HiDuck AllStar

    Jul 15, 2008
    So is this ready to be used or has it just been built in for future release? If it is ready to be used I can't seem to find a place to set it up on my computer at directv.com.
  5. Oct 22, 2008 #25 of 112

    jefe1018 New Member

    Sep 2, 2007
    Diretcv has finally outdone themselves!! This was by far, the worst experience I've had in my 10+ years of being a customer. My wife calls me at work and says both DVRs are resetting and something isn't right. Mind you, it's 5:00pm. Great idea to do this in the middle of the day. After several minutes, one HR 21 appears to have made it through unscathed. The other, in the living room, had all recordings wiped out. I spent 50 minutes on the phone with technical support trying to find my recordings with no luck. Final the rep admits there is no way to recover my recordings and reads the prepared statement about how she's sorry for the inconveinence, and that their technicians were being proactive in running this update to alleviate problems with unrespnsive remotes. Neither one of my DVRs was having any issues. My wife and I had about 40 hours of recordings we had yet to watch. All I got was a bunch more I'm sorrys from the rep, another read of the prepared statement, and a $75 credit to my account from her supervisor.
    As upset as I am, my wife makes me look calm and reserved. She wants to know why we spend over $100 a month for such a crappy service. I've been defending Directv for years, but I think this may be the end for me. The lack of communication, the timing of the update, and the end result for what sounds like a lot of us, have soured me beyond belief. 1080p will probably be a better experience, but the price I had to pay is too much. It's not worth the heartache.
  6. Oct 22, 2008 #26 of 112

    Roquefort Cool Member

    Mar 19, 2008
    Came home from work yesterday to discover that 0x290 had been pushed. HR21-700 is behaving fine (although audio output has seemingly been turned down...) and has now a NETWORK SERVICES sub-menu (under SETUP-NETWORK).

    What is it for?? I have been using DOD quite successfully since it became available. Does it have something to do with it?

    There is nothing in the Release Notes about it. Any idea?

    Curious Al.
  7. Oct 22, 2008 #27 of 112

    billsharpe Hall Of Fame

    Jan 25, 2007
    The update timing was terrible! :nono2:

    I tried to turn on the receiver last night at 5:30 to watch local news. No response using the remote.

    Pushed the power button on the receiver. No response.

    Pushed the red reset button. No response.

    Pulled the plug for a minute, then replugged. No response.

    Pulled the plug again and waited 15 minutes. Finally the receiver powered on.

    By this time, though, I was watching local news OTA via the TV set. I watched the blue lights circling for about 40 minutes -- yes, 40, not 4. Eventually the lights glowed steady. I switched to the DirecTV feed, which was now working. No recordings lost -- at least they are still listed. ToDo list still intact. System test showed new software downloaded at 6:16 pm.

    Previous updates occurred in the middle of the night. Why the change to early evening? :confused:

    I've got FiOS for TV and phone. I'm now considering it seriously for TV.
  8. Oct 22, 2008 #28 of 112

    mbuser Godfather

    Jul 6, 2006
    The prerelease notes in the CE thread included a "grey screen" notation, but the official release notes do not. Does this release include a fix for the grey/black screen problem? I hope so.
  9. Oct 22, 2008 #29 of 112

    Alebob911 Hall Of Fame

    Mar 22, 2007
    Software engineer for 30 years and doesn't have any ideas about cell phone technology?? I have never had a cell phone that had a "dial tone". Instead of complaining about the "latest" technology, I take some time during your semi retirement and learn about it.
  10. Oct 22, 2008 #30 of 112

    tkrandall Hall Of Fame

    Oct 3, 2003
    A question about 1080p24. My Sammy HLS-6187W reportedly does not support 1080p24 input or output. So what options do I have with the 1080p24 material that will be available? Output from the DVR as 1080i (i.e. 1080i60)?
  11. Oct 22, 2008 #31 of 112

    rahlquist Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2007
    If you choose to say purchase a 1080p PPV, then the DVR will play it at the max resolution your set supports. If your TV wont do 1080p then it will try 1080i.
  12. Oct 22, 2008 #32 of 112

    tkrandall Hall Of Fame

    Oct 3, 2003
    It (my TV) will do 1080p, as in 1080p/60, but not 1080p/24, according to what I have read. So can the HR20 convert the material to 1080p/60, or can it and does it convert it to 1080i/60?
  13. Oct 22, 2008 #33 of 112

    bpratt Godfather

    Nov 24, 2005
    Salt Lake...
    It appears that currently D* only supports 24 frame per second for 1080p. In the future they could support upconverting 1080p/24 to 1080p/60 by using the same method used when 24 fps movies are converted to 60 fps for TV viewing.

    They take the first frame of the 24 fps and send it 2 times, the next frame is sent 3 times, the next frame 2 times, the next frame 3 times...... repeated for 24 frames, gives you 60 frames.
  14. Oct 22, 2008 #34 of 112
    Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

    Jun 18, 2006
    Yes, that's a simple form of 3:2 pulldown.
  15. Oct 22, 2008 #35 of 112

    whereami AllStar

    Mar 13, 2008
    So from a clarity standpoint, is the 1080p/24 better than 1080i/60, if that's what D* is currently supporting?
  16. Oct 22, 2008 #36 of 112

    evan_s Hall Of Fame

    Mar 3, 2008
    Really ends up being a complicated question. The short answer is 24p is great for movies that where shot that way originally if everything used in the process can handle them correctly and your TV can actually display the content as an even multiple of 24p, eg 48p, 96p or 120p. If your tv doesn't support displaying 24p content as an even multiple it doesn't end up mattering too much since it's going to have to go through a 2:3 telecine at some point in the process no matter what. For the same reason 60p output doesn't make any sense. Even tho it's possible for 120p set to display 24p as a proper multiple a lot of the sets don't do it properly. They convert it up to 60i with a telecine process and then convert that to 120p which doesn't eliminate the judder and does 2 conversions.

    For video shot at 1080i60 converting it down to 24p would be bad and 1080i60 is the best way to pass the video down the chain.
  17. Oct 22, 2008 #37 of 112

    trainman Hall Of Fame

    Jan 9, 2008
    GTE = Verizon Wireless
    Cellular One = AT&T Wireless (as far as I can tell -- the various acquisitions and mergers here are a little complicated)

    But this is DBSTalk, not CellPhoneTalk, so, uh, how about that 0x0290 software?
  18. Oct 22, 2008 #38 of 112

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    I was actually quite happy when all seven of my HRs started rebooting at the same time. I had experienced a lockup on one of my 20-700s with a 2TB eSATA on it earlier in the evening and thought I was going to start experiencing problems with the compatibility of the 20-700 and the eSATA.

    Worried about this for about two hours and suddenly they all started rebooting. And from the screen messages, I could see that an NR was coming. Oh, joy. The problem wasn't my huge eSATA.

    My wife had a fit. All she could see was missing the shows that she records for herself and I don't backup. Who schedules a NR at 7:45pm on a Tuesday night? Talk about poor planning. But, by 8:00, all seven HRs were running properly, no lost shows. Close tho. Too close. Really bad timing. Must have been a awfully good reason.

    Pretty funny tho, listening to my wife diagnose the "problem". Must be the wind, so she runs outside expecting the dish to be flapping around on the roof. Then she blamed the multi-switch, then she finally blamed me because I was laughing at her.

    Anyhow, everything got recorded on time and everything looks good and I got a great laugh out of the whole thing. She calmed down right away when the sets came back up.

  19. Oct 22, 2008 #39 of 112

    ShinerDraft AllStar

    Jan 10, 2008
    Our 21 is on a table beside the door to our bedroom. I heard it buzzing like crazy even though it was off & nothing was recorded. I figured that I was in the process of hearing my hard drive crash or 290 was coming down the pipe.

    5:00pm-6:00pm *is* an awfully odd time to push out a software update. Fortunately, it didn't affect me but I imagine that DTV will have *alot* of upset calls on that one.

    I'm looking forward to getting home & playing with this. I've had 2 big issues with my HR20 and was told that this update would correct them.
  20. Oct 22, 2008 #40 of 112

    dvdmth Icon

    Jul 24, 2008
    Denver, CO
    Yesterday's Wheel of Fortune was still in the To Do List this morning. The show did record, although the first few minutes were cut off due to the software update. I didn't miss anything, though, because I also have a Comcast DVR which I set to record the show as a back-up (after reading about the DVR troubles on this forum). I must admit that it was quite funny to see a program scheduled to record "yesterday" on the HR21...

    Last Wednesday, Comcast in Denver pushed out a software update on their DVR's. The update actually went out at 11 PM, but they didn't allow anything to record from around 9 PM through midnight. I wasn't recording anything at the time, but a neighbor was and she was not exactly thrilled about it. I guess what's good for Comcast is good for DirecTV (it sometimes pays to have both, if you can afford it).

    EDIT - I guess it was two Wednesdays ago (there was a baseball game last Wednesday).

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