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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Nov 11, 2009.
Wow. Didn't expect that. OK, that's one person. Anybody else?
I don't see why that wouldn't happen. What I'm saying is that I don't have any noisy HDDs issues and get the audio and video dropouts. I think that if I had an HDD that was banging and clanging, I'd expect something else to happen. Such as what you report. I still don't thing the two issues are related.
I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm just telling you what I see on my HRs. I think the audio and video dropouts are a widespread issue and, while they seem to manifest themselves on noisy HDDs, those HDDs might well be the cause of them, but they are not causing my issues. I'm convinced that my issues are a result of the DLB NR which took out two HDDs of mine. I quickly replaced them.
Rich, do you keep your DVRs on an open shelf or inside an enclosure?
i never hear mine it is quiet, but ever since the update recently i get freezes and hiccups with sound playing unaffected in the background along with pixelation.... frustrating!!!
It's not banging and clanging as if the drive is going bad, it seems like hard constant writing.
I'm an IT person and know what a failing hdd sounds like, and this isn't it. It is a significant problem when you have programs saved on the dvr that either don't come on much from months back, or movies saved from free previews/previous subscriptions to packages.
Most are open on at least three sides. Two are in a cabinet, but I keep the doors open and the back has several three inch holes that I drilled in it. I'd hear the noise, I had basically the same setup with my twelve TiVos and the "seeking" noise drove me crazy when I was just reading or trying to grab a nap. Right now I'm sitting with a 20-700 about eighteen inches from my left ear and it is silent.
In my main viewing room, I have four 20-700s that are on glass selves and open on four sides and I don't even notice the fan noise when reading. No "seeking" noises.
Yeah, that's what I get. It is frustrating. And I only watch recorded shows and the dropouts and pixellations are always recorded. And come at the worst possible moments.
Do you have really large To Do lists? Shows for kids and stuff like that that fills up the To Do lists?
This is what bothers me about condemning all the noisy HDDs. When the IT folks speak, I tend to believe them.
HDD noise (or rather I would classify it as activity) has increased slightly but still not bad but ditto on the above!!! Drives you crazy when you miss the best play or punchline :lol: Although sometimes you can rewind and it doesn't occur in the same place.
No, not really. I think the highest # of season passes is close to 30, but not all of those are in season. The one that could have the most in the to do is the first one that had the issues, but also thrashes the least.
Just as an fyi, in both the living room and bedroom we are about 12 - 15 ft away and can hear the sounds.
This adds to my confusion. I have little doubt that some of the HDDs are bad, but what are the odds of having three of them, and I gather that the noise started up right after an NR? I had my head in my one cabinet today and heard nothing but the whisper of fans. Perplexing. How's your temps?
I'll check when I get home. They are all well ventilated. #3 which thrashes the worse is the most open, and I can walk within a foot of it at times and can't even tell the hdd is working at all. But when it starts thrashing, all bets are off.
Be interesting to see a comparison of temps when the HDD is running quietly and when it thrashes.
Temps should ideally be in the 35-45 C range. Reliability decreases fast once the drives exceed 60 deg. in temperature and decreases slowly as temps go below 30 C.
You aren't going to be able to hear any differences across temperature unless the mfr. really really really screwed something up. I can't even imagine how they could do that.
Temps for the 20-700s should range from 123-126 on the high end, no higher than 130. For the 21s, the temps are usually in the 105-110 range. I ran a 21-700 for a year at about 123 degrees and it's still functioning correctly.
I just asked that question out of curiosity, we've beaten the temp issue to death and I really don't want to start it up again.
I ended up replacing my hard drive and getting a new fan for my MX1 enclosure. Since changing out those two last weekend my living room has returned to its normal noise level. So now I am completely unsure what was the cause of the increased noise.
Same temp at 126/7 for both.
I'd be curious to know if the problem remains solved or returns, if you don't mind keeping us updated. In addition to swopping the HDD you presumably had to restart at least once, and possibly had the DVR powered off for a while as well....so more than one thing happened at once.
Probably a bad internal drive. Almost certainly.
Normal for the 20s.