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HR34 and Whole-Home DVR, PIP, RVU

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by David Ortiz, Jul 6, 2011.

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  1. BudShark

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    There's no technical reason an RVU client couldn't be built that recreated a PIP or Doubleplay scenario. As far as any server is concerned, a port or IP/port combination is a unique client. So, if DirecTV allowed it, a single client box could request 2 separate RVU streams. Bam... two TV streams and PIP we have. If DirecTV didn't allow it, all the client would have to do is generate a second MAC address and request a second IP address (either physical or virtual) and DirecTV would have no idea it was for a single client. Then the client would render and be responsible for creating the PIP - but the source would all be a single HR34.

    So... lots of ways to do it. ;)
     
  2. Tom Robertson

    Tom Robertson Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    True... but...

    Something would have to decode/decrypt two MPEG4 streams and then merge them into the final video output.

    Not a "technical problem", just needs the hardware (and associated cost.)

    Cheers,
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  3. HoTat2

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    Correct;

    Edited my previous post to add the term "active" for RVU clients, but not for "MRV clients" since I never said that, but "MRV streams." ;)
     
  4. HoTat2

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    BTW, was thinking that although the HR34 is able to share with up to three other "active" ;) MRV clients, any RVU clients connected to the HR34 would likely not be able to so. But are only able to stream live programs from the HR34's tuners or recorded programs on it's HDD.

    That is to say that only TVs connected to the HR34 my see and access programs on the UPL, while those connected to RVU clients may view only live and recorded programming from the HR34.
     
  5. inkahauts

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    I hear what you are saying, I just doubt it/hope not....

    I suspect that for uniformity, the hr34 can "pass" along a MRV stream from another server to any rvu clients.

    What I really wonder is if a C30 will be able to access a non-rvu but mrv only server and play from its playlist directly. I doubt it, I have a feeling it will have to be passed through the hr34 as would any streams to any non directv created rvu client only devices, like the samsung tv's...

    With RVU, the client is simply displaying what the server tells it to, and if the server can see a mrv feed from a non rvu server, then there is no reason to think that a rvu only client wont be able to play programs from it, just a matter of how its done, and if the c30 can shortcut the rvu sever. Again, I doubt that for uniformity purposes.
     
  6. harsh

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    I'd imagine there several reasons that you can't use an RVU client with a non-RVU server. Rendering the menu and OSD bitmaps is likely chief among them.
     
  7. Jeremy W

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    Good thing I never used the word "problem." ;)
     
  8. Tom Robertson

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    You two were right, though a clarification might be helpful to others. :)
     
  9. Alan Gordon

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    The other night, I thought I saw the HR34 on TV... then I realized it looked completely different than what we think the HR34 looks like, so I must have seen the HR25... :grin:

    ~Alan
     
  10. lzhj9k

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    I noticed the revision originally cited version 3.6 060311 had HR34 or Home Media Center mentions/photos.

    If you use the originally provided link, There is a newer version 3.7 071111 and all of the information for the HR34 Home Media center has been deleted/removed....
     
  11. Jeremy W

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    Obviously the project has been cancelled. Oh well.
     
  12. spartanstew

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    They still didn't correct the error on P.27 (talking about Last 5, but screen shot is of Audio/Video).
     
  13. spartanstew

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    Was also hoping to see an Android App discussed along with the iPad App.
     
  14. Drucifer

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    Q: How do HR34 playback work? Will the [​IMG] show up if the HR34 is already playing back a show? If not, why can't this technology be ported to the current HRs?
     
  15. harsh

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    Quite probably a simple lack of horsepower or chipset functionality (perhaps the HR2x can only encrypt/recrypt one stream at a time).
     
  16. mjwagner

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    It wouldn't surprise me at all if the HR34 never saw the light of day. Anyone remember the HMC that was all the rage at the DirecTV CES booth a number of years ago. Same excitement generated here in the forums. All kinds of discussion of how great it was going to be, yadayadayada...and poof...never mind. I warned you all when all this HR34 hype started to remember the HMC. Sorry, I'm once bitten twice shy.
     
  17. Jeremy W

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    In the beginning it wouldn't have surprised me. But now, I'd be pretty surprised. DirecTV essentially helped to create a new standard around the HR34 (RVU), there are units being field tested, and we've seen the manual. It's pretty far along.
     
  18. Tom Robertson

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    While I suspect the amount of hype by DBStalk'ers is similar, the amount of discussion from DIRECTV seems different. Key among the differences is that DIRECTV has mentioned it in their investor conference calls. I don't think DIRECTV did that for the original HMC unit.

    I'm pretty sure that something akin to the unit seen at CES this year will see the light of day and in customers hands.

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  19. mjwagner

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    I'll be happy as a clam if you are right. I'm just not gonna hold my breath or even get excited about it. Going thru that with the HMC was quite enough for me thank you. And if I am not mistaken I believe that their was at least some documentation, and mock-ups at their CES booth that came directly from DirecTV on the HMC so it was not just talk or speculation....so from my perspective DirecTV has a bit of a credibility problem with the stuff they show/announce at CES.

    I find that some of the folks here have surprisingly short and/or selective memories about how we were all disappointed by what DirecTV did around HMC.
     
  20. mjwagner

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    Are you talking about the stuff in the manual that is no longer their in the most current release?...yeah that convinces me that it is real...this time...:D
     
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