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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Oct 28, 2011.
Make you wonder how the hr34 was designed as well.
Are they two different prices?
Quick update -
Last Friday I received the HR34 I ordered from usadigitalhd.com. No problems getting it activated and deactivating my HR21 & HR20 that it was replacing. I also went ahead and switched MRV over to supported. I got all my SL's set-up and enjoyed watching two NFL games at the same time on Saturday. Overall it's a great receiver and I look forward to the HDGUI sometime this year (I hope).
If it has dual NICs, I didn't pay that much attention, then it's setup the same way.
I just have to say I'm a bit baffled about how DirecTV runs their DeCA. While I want my HR34 to bridge DeCA to ethernet, without a spanning-tree system they are setting themselves up for a world of hurt.
If I were to get two receivers (perhaps HR34s) that bridge ethernet to DeCA and hook them both to the same ethernet and same coax, there would be massive packet replication and the network would fail.
I guess what I'm saying is this DirecTV stuff is getting very complex now.
Why would you hook them to both eth AND coax. With the DECA BB at your router/modem, Coax is all that is needed.
Why would you hook both to ethernet and coax? If you connect the first HR34 to your ethernet network (to act as a bridge), the second HR34 would only need to be connected via coax.
Why use your HR34 to bridge DECA to the Internet? That's not a supported setup and causes issues as it is. Just get yourself an Internet Connection Kit and be done with it. It's much cleaner that way.
It works perfectly as a bridge, and does not cause any issues. My system has 2 hr34's and 2 hr24's and 1 hr21. I have one of the Hr34's connected to the router, Everything else is coax only except the deca on the hr21. I don't see how it can be any cleaner of an installation than that, other than to replace the hr21 with another hr24. No issues whatsoever.
That's what I was looking to do with my 1 HR34 and 2 HR24's.
Anyhow, how'd you get 2 HR34's when most people can't even get 1 yet.
I have a question for you. When you reboot either of your HR34's do you lose MRV connection to the other boxes? I mean does the just booted HR34 NOT see all the other boxes but the other boxes DO see the just booted HR34?
Anyone else on here having issues with Directv Cinema? I've already reported an issue to Directv, just kinda curious how many have seen it, because I've already seen 2 or 3 more in the CE forum mention it.
Basically, I hit menu, then cinema plus, then click one of the 3 options and it just goes back to live tv. No DoD ever pops up. Im on a DECA BB and all 3 green lights are lit. Rcvr has been installed and running since Friday.
All boxes see each other after the reboot is complete.
And this is why the Internet Connection Kit is cleaner. If you used it, instead of your HR34, the other units would still see each other while the HR34 is rebooting instead of having to wait.
My installer is not trained on the 34 installation. Please detail the difference in installing a hr34 verses a hr 24 install. What I mean is, he is installing my customer supplied hr34. He has never seen or heard of the hr34.
Could someone tell my installer "in detail" what he must do to install and activate the hr34. I called Direct tv to explain the problem and they tell me that they cannot help me because the 34 is not supposed to be available to me, (existing customer) until February.
Please help as clearly as possible. Thank you in advance. Brian
The 34 takes up 5 tuners on a SWiM, so he may need to rewire to make sure the SWiM is not oversubscribed. He also may need to put in a SWiM-16 depending on what else you have.
Otherwise it is very similar to a 24. Have him hook up just the coax, not the ethernet. No DECA required. Your existing broadband DECA will support it, if you have one. If you don't, if you're running 100% ethernet, he should probably put in a broadband DECA and reconfigure your other receivers to use it.
Installation, configuration, and activation should be pretty much just like an HR24.
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to help him, also print out this post: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2873338#post2873338
All boxes see each other any way. They just don't see the Internet while the bridged hr34 is rebooting. My hr34 rebooted one time ( when I downloaded CE release on Friday night) in 17 days. I think I can live without an Internet connection to my DTV boxes for 15 minutes while the hr34 reboots.
I wouldn't recommend using the HR34 to provide internet to your other receivers. It works... but it was kind of flaky for me and I ended up just using a CCK.
I am upgrading my SD receiver to a HR34 which is on order from USADigitalHD. The USADigitalHD rep said to call them after I receive the HR34 and give them the DTV account # and they would update my DTV account and upgrade the SD receiver to an HR34. They said it would make it easier when I call DTV to activate it and DTV would send some prepaid box to return my SD receiver. Has anybody tried this method and is it really required for the USA rep to upgrade my account or can DTV do it too?
Received my HR34 from USADigitalHD today. Hooked it up, called DTV and simply said I was activating a new receiver. No issues (customer since '95 so clearly not a new account). I deactivated an older one I'll keep as a spare and that wasn't an issue either -- the rep asked if I needed to send it back and I said, "no, I'll keep it, it's a spare for a guest bedroom but I just don't want to pay the $7 a month to keep it active." No further questions.
Well, perhaps I just don't know that DeCA exists, I think I have to hook all my boxes up to each other and the internet with ethernet. Or perhaps I replaced two HR22s with HR24s, and I didn't know the HR24s have built-in DeCA, so I just hook them up the same as the HR22s were, both on ethernet.
People do make mistakes.
Because I don't like to hook up extra devices, find extra power plugs and waste extra electricity if an HR34 can do the job without an ICK. To me it seems pretty clear that with the removal of the 2nd ethernet port and the 2nd satellite port (used to power the ICK) that DirecTV thinks that having an ICK next to an HR34 is the exception instead of the rule.
Honestly, if I had my way I'd just put every receiver on ethernet instead of using DeCA, but H25s don't have ethernet ports.