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HR34 External Hard Drive Compatibility

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Bartman94, Jan 17, 2012.

  1. Mar 2, 2013 #101 of 137
    P Smith

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    Post your file to verify the credentials :),

    my remark related to low count of these SansDigital's boxes.

    No one expert would draw conclusion based on such small numbers.
     
  2. Mar 2, 2013 #102 of 137
    RunnerFL

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    I'm sitting not 50 feet from over 2,500 servers with RAID that I setup. I don't have to verify anything for you.
     
  3. Mar 2, 2013 #103 of 137
    P Smith

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    my remark related to low count of these SansDigital's boxes.

    No one expert would draw conclusion based on such small numbers.

    PS. Regardless of number of servers and RAID cards installed, the rank "expert" would mean much more then that.
     
  4. Mar 3, 2013 #104 of 137
    unixguru

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    A decade as a software engineer/architect developing storage-related enterprise software in a top storage-centric company. Designed/spec'ed/evaluated/purchased millions of dollars of high-end storage. Problems are not limited to super cheap low-end enclosures. I've seen arrays >$100,000 from top vendors that were excrement.

    I've used 2 different Sans Digital MS2UT. For that model my observations were:
    • Internal power supply creates a lot of heat
    • Fans were poor at cooling it (latest firmware I had eliminated speed-control and ran them full blast - an affirmation of the quality of the hardware design)
    • I had a drive fail on two separate occasions - possibly due to heat
    • Something about a DVR reboot after a software upgrade always made them start beeping claiming there was a drive failure when there was not
    YMMV. Other models or newer versions of that model may have improved.

    I experienced too many problems to ever consider any of their products again. I replaced with a CalDigit VR and my experience was totally different - absolutely not a single problem, ever. Sure, it costs more. I personally don't want to spend time - repeatedly - messing with something that is as simple as storage.

    I picked the MS2UT originally because it was recommended by this forum. Like most consumers I was looking for something inexpensive that would adequately do the job. And as is usually the case, cheapest frequently means inadequate. If someone has a low threshold for adequate then by all means consider a Sans Digital.
     
  5. Mar 3, 2013 #105 of 137
    P Smith

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    Thank you for the detailed reports.
     
  6. Mar 3, 2013 #106 of 137
    franklin_planner

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    3TB EURS AV-GP with a TT dock. So far so good.
     
  7. Mar 3, 2013 #107 of 137
    alcatholic

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    As a consumer how much value would you see in the using WD Red drives with TLER inside your CalDigit VR?
     
  8. Mar 3, 2013 #108 of 137
    P Smith

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    It's Enterprise type drive, so in home environment full of dispensable data like recordings it's overkill, waste of money.
     
  9. Mar 3, 2013 #109 of 137
    RunnerFL

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    The WD Red label are not Enterprise drives. They are "Small Office" or "Home Office".
     
  10. Mar 3, 2013 #110 of 137
    P Smith

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    Oops. Then it will be right one for your RAID box.
     
  11. Mar 5, 2013 #111 of 137
    unixguru

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    I have enterprise Seagate drives in mine. Reds weren't available the last time I got drives.

    I wouldn't use anything that wasn't RAID qualified. Others will, of course, work but if the right kind of problem develops then one may find out that they really don't have RAID :)
     
  12. Mar 5, 2013 #112 of 137
    alcatholic

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    Thank you for the response.

    Is there anything wrong with using Raid drives as single drives? I'm not sure I want raid at this time, but would like the option to use a Red as a single drive now and as part of a raid later.
     
  13. Mar 5, 2013 #113 of 137
    RunnerFL

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    There's nothing wrong with it at all. The thing to remember however is if you're going to add a drive to a RAID array you'll lose all data on it when the array is created. You can't just get another drive and setup an array and keep the data on the drive you have now. You could copy it off, create the array and then copy it back though.
     
  14. Mar 5, 2013 #114 of 137
    alcatholic

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    Thank you for the response. I'm glad a TLER drive does pose any problems as a stand alone drive.

    I understand about losing all the data on a drive when used to create an array. Although, I'm thinking about going with an esata drobo box (if I can find one cheap on craigslist or someplace).

    Any thoughts on my notion of using a Drobo box?! :)
     
  15. Mar 6, 2013 #115 of 137
    CCarncross

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    Do any of the DROBO boxes offer eSATA? Apparently an older model DROBO S had eSATA on it, but it looks like they dropped eSATA support on their currnent line.
     
  16. Mar 6, 2013 #116 of 137
    RunnerFL

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    Good question. The only ones I saw were USB 2.0 and USB 3.0.
     
  17. Mar 6, 2013 #117 of 137
    alcatholic

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    None of the current Drobo boxes offer esata, and, yes, only the older Drobo S offered esata.

    So I'm looking at prices for used Drobo S units, just to keep my options open while I wait for the HR44. If I find a good used deal, and there are no known incompatibilities using a Drobo with an hr34, I might consider it.

    But I know there are other likely more sensible ways to go.
     
  18. stubing

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    Hello all, just wanted to report back on my experience with the Mediasonic enclosure as promised. I hooked it up last night right after the DirecTV tech finished his install. It's working perfectly! :righton: I put 4 1TB drives in (RAID 10), set the fan to "auto" and it is running at the lowest/quietest speed. The air blowing out is cold. I could not be any happier. Here are the model numbers I used again to save everyone the trouble of searching:

    Enclosure: Mediasonic PRORAID 4 Bay (HFR2-SU3S2)
    Drives: 4 X 1TB Western Digital (WD10EURX)

    Success! :D
     
  19. P Smith

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    not that fast :)
    you just pass install phase

    now we will wait for your report after 3-6 months and/or when free space will come to 5%
     
  20. Rich

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    Yup, can't confirm it will work for a long time unless you let it run for a long time... :lol:

    Rich
     

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