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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by harsh, May 18, 2011.
Time is money they say...
Sorry sometimes I have trouble wording posts right. I guess I am still confused how RVU clients will hook up to the HR-34. Wont all RVU Clients need both a coaxial and a ethernet port?
Sounds to me like AllVId is Government and RVU is Industry.
Wifi video and IPTV video aren't standardized yet. That is what AllVid is trying to do on the IPTV side.
The HR34 will be a great addition to DIRECTVs hardware lineup while the FCC figures out the plan for Allvid. They can use it to reduce their costs and speed up installations.
Then when AllVid is finalized, perhaps the HR34 will have a role in that environment too. For instance you might have a basic gateway offering from DIRECTV and the premium gateway that has the DVR builtin.
Then over time we'll see how the industry defines itself within the new standard.
I'd agree that the physical look of an Allvid gateway from DIRECTV would not be significantly different than an HR34 (or HR24 for that matter). The big difference is that it would have a sat-in port and a network out port (Ethernet, MoCA, WiFi, whatever works) and that would be it. There probably would be no need for storage at that point although I could see DIRECTV adding storage for the sole purpose of pre-downloaded PPV content.
If Allvid does go through I would hope that companies would have the ability to approve or disapprove a device for their service. I would rather pay more and have 1 company be required to support it than have a back and forth game.
The first internet gateways were pretty dumb cable modems. Now they have wifi built in. Some have plugs for NAS or other features.
The gateways likely won't be very feature rich but they will develop features that make sense for the gateways over time.
And, now the fanboi plug. I'm very confident that DIRECTV will be able to innovate in the new environment AllVid will present. They will figure out what makes sense in the gateways and what doesn't. And how to improve their service offerings in the AllVid environment.
Some of the things DIRECTV does now are still awesome under AllVid: mix channels for instance.
Why not be more specific .. Assuming a competent network the gateway method could provide for a personalized mix channel. No need to wait for provider specific ones. Of course you'd need each tuner to feed from the proper channel and (to help on network bandwidth) perhaps scale it to "mix" size and let the the client place that "mix" channel in the proper position on the screen.
Can't do that with the RVU or "per room" setups now in use.
I am still waiting for the web browser to be built in. I know now why that hasn't happened because the current processors in the HD DVR's can't handle it. I have read that those are expected to increase with the new types of chips on the market like the Tegra and Arm chipsets. They say those might end up in STB's.
Do you need Comcast approval to hook a PC into the internet they provide?
Now, I do understand some of what you are saying and I don't really mean to diminish it too much. DIRECTV has some features that might not translate into a truly generic model very well. That is the RVU-like part of AllVid.
And not every gateway will be identical. DIRECTV will very likely innovate some really cool stuff into their gateways.
I suspect gateways won't be able to do 8 window PIP. Heck, I don't expect most any home equipment will be able to do 8 window PIP for awhile. That is a LOT of video decoding (8 MPEG4 streams).
I have wanted one of those devices that control centers use to make flexible PIP arrangements. Then I realized that 4 receivers and several computer monitors does exactly what I want and is much less costly.
The top problem I read about re: AllVid is it's failure to properly assure copyright protection. That's likely a showstopper item.
That would explain why Hollywood is totally opposed to it.
It is built in via DTCP-IP. What is missing?
And I wouldn't mind reading the commentary if you have the link.
Just read it on WIKI 10 minutes ago...
Did you read it or write it... (Just kidding, about the weaknesses of wiki.)
So.... how are those HR34 trials coming along? Any time line that can be revealed?
That part has been there at least since January when I first read it...it includes a link with more detail on that item.
The HR34 will be available in either 2011 or 2012 assuming nothing strange happens (like the end of the world for example).
The main question will be how soon before RVU clients like more HDTV's, PC's BluRay Player and Game Systems start showing up in mass quantities? I know the only RVU HDTV out now is the Samsung's HDTV with RVU. Also their are rumors the PS4 is starting production at the end of this year and might be released sometime in 2012. I wonder if the PS4 will have RVU built in?
The PS3 can do RVU--when someone writes the app.
RVU's future hinges on what happens to AllVid. If AllVid picks RVU, then I expect you'll see an explosion of RVU devices.
If Allvid stalls, RVU might pickup.
If Allvid goes somewhere else, RVU will morph into the something else (I bet.)