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HR34 VOD and recordings freezing

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by meckems, Aug 7, 2012.

  1. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    I've downloaded half-a dozen episodes of DEADWOOD and a couple movies on the current NR and they all played back without an issue.

    Now, that being said, I haven't tried any of the specific stuff some have reported as being problematic. I believe Laxguy has said one of his comedy specials has caused an issue. I'll try downloading that tonight as a test. For what it's worth, my HR34 is connected by ethernet to the rest of the LAN and is the de facto bridge for everything on the DECA cloud to the rest of the 'net.
     
  2. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    Oh well, then that settles that. :rolleyes::hurah:
     
  3. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    Don't be an ass simply because some are experiencing the issue and some are not. It could be a LOT of things causing this issue.

    If you have been active as long as your username indicates you may remember the infamous NFL Network Thursday night game in 2006. That one MPEG4 stream was glitchy enough that it corrupted everything else my HR20-700 recorded for the next several days until I figured out what had happened and rebooted it. Turns out others had similar glitches stemming from recording that one game.

    So yeah, an oddly-formatted h.264 stream can interact poorly with the decoding hardware in the box and cause issues. Current firmware is obviously much better at error-trapping than it used to be, and current encoders are much better too (no more "woody woodpecker" Brrrrrps from my local CBS in the last few years either, for instance).

    But that's not to say that all VOD content is encoded equally.
     
  4. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    Some more data:

    All four of the HBO comedy specials experienced freezes. For those who want to test: The Wuhl special; Robert Klein; Will Ferrell, and Dana Carvey specials.

    The first Ep of Treme had it, BUT the next two didn't. The latter two were watched nearly "live", i.e., I started play right after it showed it was being downloaded in the queue. Playing back right now the third ep via an H25, I got a freeze, which soon (about 8 seconds) moved/jumped ahead, but in this case, only a few frames. (I have experienced also what RunnerFL reported as to extra large skips). This is repeatable.

    The first Ep of House of Lies (Showtime) played all right; am testing more now.
     
  5. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't matter what you download and the skips aren't in the same area every time. There were a few times where I re-downloaded a Deadwood episode and the skip either wasn't there or it was in a different place.
     
  6. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

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    Folks,

    it's time to tone down the rhetoric a bit. Please be kind to each other. As a reminder, the discussion of pre-release software is off-limits here.
     
  7. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Also, just because I notice we're all talking HBO stuff here, it's not just the HBO stuff. I've had it happen with downloads of "The Nerdist" episodes as well.
     
  8. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    Admittedly I've had my HR34 less than two days, but: The freeze was in the exact same place and the skip was consistent on that one recording. If you re-download something and the freeze is in a different place, that's important to note, too.

    It could make a difference in what was recorded, or when, etc. That's one reason I think it makes sense to be specific.
     
  9. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    HoL.... House of Lies, Showtime, 1545

    First three eps: no stops, no stutters, smooth. Watching on H25 from HR34. Downloaded yesterday, watched this a.m..

    ps. Not enough testing/data to make much of this yet, but it could be about encoding, or even timing as to when the shows were downloaded.
     
  10. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    Yep and it happends in the same locations of the downloads no matter how many times you rewind it. Its the receiver no doubt!
    But never a dropout durring a recording. AND AGAIN my hr 23 that is connected to the same system never has this issue.
     
  11. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    what's your point? Are you saying the vod content encoding is different for the hr34 then the hr23?
    Yea I don't think so. I've already recorded the same show on both multiple times. Guess what? Hr 34 still skips.
    Just because my post count isn't as large as your doesn't make you any better or smarter then then next guy. :nono:
     
  12. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    Of course not; there are dweebs with large post counts and rocket scientists with a handful.

    What makes LL a better read is he is even handed and calm, doesn't make sweeping statements or rant, and has a lot of relevant experience, for starters.
     
  13. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    No. Please read what I wrote, not what you imagine I wrote.

    Encoding may vary from program to program across Directv's library of available VOD programming. Heck, I've even heard from very reliable sources that Directv has in the past - and continues - to re-encode their library with better-quality, more-optimized encoders from time to time. After all, even a few percentage points saved in file sizes can make a huge difference in their bandwidth and storage requirements, as well as producing better-optimized files for downstream decoding.

    Well considering that isn't actually what I said, I am not surprised.

    No one ever said - or even intimated - that the hardware is the same across the Directv inventory of receivers. Performance differences - including the ability to flawlessly decode the same bitstream - are exactly what my earlier response was trying to raise as a possibility. Thanks for finally noticing the actual point.

    If you're more concerned with my post count than what I actually write, perhaps you shouldn't bother reading my posts? :)
     

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