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HR34 w/ DECA

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Mike32280, Jan 2, 2013.

  1. Jan 2, 2013 #1 of 19
    Mike32280

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    So I just installed my new HR34 today and also switched from networking my dvr's through my router to DECA. I'm hoping that the glitches in the MRV I am experienceing are simply based off the fact that the 34 is busy updating as I've only had in plugged in and active for about 8-9 hours now...other the DECA or the 34 are terribly unstable....basically MRV is unwatchable either with the 34 as server or client....

    Is this common in the first few hours or do I have a problem?
     
  2. Jan 2, 2013 #2 of 19
    NR4P

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    The 34 shouldn't have any DECA connected to the back of it.
    Each HR20 should have a DECA connected to the rear.

    Without any router connection, MRV should be functional with only the above.

    Now if you want internet access, two choices.
    First choice, run a Cat5 wire from router to the 34. It will bridge the network.
    Alternative is to use a DECA box or CCK to connect the router to the coax network at a splitter.

    Confirming you have a green labeled SWIM16, and all splitters are green labeled?
    And you have the HR34 on one SWM output and 2 HR20's on the other?
     
  3. Jan 2, 2013 #3 of 19
    Stuart Sweet

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    I think he means a broadband DECA.
     
  4. Jan 2, 2013 #4 of 19
    NR4P

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    Yup figured that was likely too.
    So if MRV/WHDVR is troublesome with just the first 3 lines I typed, then there's another problem somewhere.
     
  5. Jan 2, 2013 #5 of 19
    The Merg

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    The first trouble-shooting step to determine if the issue is the CCK would be to disconnect the ethernet cables and rerun the Network Setup on each receiver. That will revert each receiver to their internal IP address. After a few minutes they should all see each other and MRV should work just fine.

    If that works then plug the ethernet cable from the router directly into the HR34 and rerun Network Setup on each receiver to force them to obtain an IP address from the router. Then check to see how MRV is working.

    - Merg
     
  6. Jan 3, 2013 #6 of 19
    Mike32280

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    OK, here is set up:

    HR34 with Ethernet cable from router plugged into back, co-ax run from splitter off of SWM8.

    2 HR20-700's with with coax from splitter running into DECA, and Ethernet cable and coax going into box

    * I currently have 1 tuner in one of the HR20's disabled bc I am using a SWM8 right now, SWM16 dosent get delivered untill next week.

    I haven't been home all day so I don't know if the performance is any better today....I will update tonight on how things are....
     
  7. Jan 3, 2013 #7 of 19
    The Merg

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    I would still start with no Internet hookup to rule out the DECA bridge and/or your router as causing the issue.

    - Merg
     
  8. Jan 3, 2013 #8 of 19
    NR4P

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    Good advice.
    Are all the splitters green labeled?
    Not 8 ways.
    Are all unused ports terminated?
     
  9. Jan 4, 2013 #9 of 19
    The Merg

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    Also good advice. :)

    - Merg
     
  10. tmanbt

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    Do I need the CCK if I have an hr34 or can I plug an ethernet cable directly from ethernet switch into ethernet port on back of HR34 ?
     
  11. samrs

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    Directly works fine here.
     
  12. raj2001

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    Which is better? The installer ran a coax all the way to my router/firewall in the basement and put a DECA BB to connect to it and took out the ethernet on my HR34.

    Are they both basically the same or is one better than the other?
     
  13. samrs

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    I used a wired DECA for a long time everything worked perfect.

    When I got my HR34 I removed the CCK and went straight ethernet, works perfect.

    I would say they are the same, but experiences may vary.

    Don't burn any bridges.
     
  14. tmanbt

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    Are you going direct to router or to a switch first ?
     
  15. samrs

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    Mine goes to a four port hub behind the TV. Thats hardwired to the router.
     
  16. tmanbt

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    Do you have to run network setup again ?
     
  17. lugnutathome

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    You can run either with the HR34 but if you are using your HR34 as the gateway to the Internet when you reboot it none of the DCEA devices can access till it is back up.

    So the CCK isolates the bridge to the internet and lets all the devices on your DECA cloud operate independently of one another with respect to internet access.

    Both methods are good as long as you understand the limits. BUT. I believe as a matter of Policy Direct TV is not yet supporting the HR34 direct option and installing the CCK as part of the regular install.

    I run the CCK myself as I like knowing all my receivers are independent of each other. YMMV. I've a LOT of receivers balanced between a DECA cloud and a hardwired home gigabit LAN. Absolutely zero stability issues on either fabric and completely transparent between the two as well.

    Don "it all works but using the supported method is best for most people" Bolton

     
  18. samrs

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    The HR34 was connected like that the first time I plugged it in, it autodetected my network.

    Try it and find out.
     
  19. raj2001

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    I kept the DECA because it saves an ethernet port by the bedroom TV which is already in short supply (only have two).

    But I use the C31 clients so if the HR34 goes down they are useless anyway.
     

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