HR44-200 no more bouncy logo - now nature scenes for screensaver

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  1. Mar 2, 2019 #181 of 233
    KyL416

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    We were talking about the local ads that are inserted on national channels at designated local avail times, which are pushed in advanced to your hard drive via hidden PUSH channels in the 8000s. Those are things like ads for local businesses or cross-channel spots for programs on other channels that include DirecTV's channel numbers.

    It's not the same thing as the promotional stills that appear during the screensaver slideshow, similar to what Netflix does when you leave pause on for an extended amount of time. That content currently originates from the internet.
     
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  2. Mar 2, 2019 #182 of 233
    JerryMeeker

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    Other than curiousity about how things work, I don’t understand why it makes a difference how the nature screensavers are arriving at the DVR. There is nothing wrong with the nature screensavers, and I still see the occasional promo for DTV programs (not ads for products). The promos stay on the screen for 5-10 seconds, and then the next nature scene appears. Totally harmless and nothing to be concerned about, IMO. And I would never consider unplugging from the internet because I still download the occasional on-demand program.
     
  3. Mar 2, 2019 #183 of 233
    James Long

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    I believe the fear is that the ads will become videos instead of still images, and that those ads will play immediately when a show is paused instead of after a delay. There remains uncertainty that DIRECTV would ever do such advertising (even though it has been mentioned). And doubt that such ads COULD be done. By definition FUD - fear, uncertainty and doubt.

    Since the current nature scenes screen saver is Internet connected it is speculation that the "video ads during pause feature" that has not yet been introduced (or even tested!?) must be Internet connected. Video ads currently used on DIRECTV do not require an Internet connection. Video ads currently used on DIRECTV are not triggered via the Internet. The ads are currently present and ready to play on DVRs so ... why not?

    The nature scenes screen saver is not immediate on pause so I would not expect a video ad to be immediate. To be most effective any ad needs to be played when someone is watching. A static advertising image during the nature scenes screen saver is likely to be missed (who is watching the screen saver?). A video ad would be more disruptive ... a moving image probably with sound. I imagine it would annoy people who were expecting silence when their DVRs are paused. But it would attract attention. And that (even if partially annoying) is what advertisers want: attention.
     
  4. Mar 2, 2019 #184 of 233
    GordonGekko

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    Check my previous posts, it was discussed by an ATT advertising exec during an earnings call, full motion video ads triggered by the pause button to be rolled out in 2019. We all know there is much smoke created during these earnings calls, tons of BS issued to mollify Wall Street but if AT&T stated it, we should take it seriously. Look what they did this week with HBO's CEO, they seem to be favoring quantity over quality.

    Full motion video ads when pause is triggered would cause me to immediately explore other waters, if the video ad forced you to play the entire thing, I'm definitely leaving Directv.
     
  5. Mar 2, 2019 #185 of 233
    James Long

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    When all other "forward looking statements" become 100% true I'll believe every "forward looking station" verbatim.
    Still waiting for the "DIRECTV via IP" service that people claim will include every channel in the DIRECTV satellite lineup. When will that be released?

    "Things that we are looking at" are not guarantees of future events being exactly what people expect.
     
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  6. Mar 2, 2019 #186 of 233
    b4pjoe

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    Should be any day now right? They said first quarter 2019 didn't they? :grinning:
     
  7. Mar 2, 2019 #187 of 233
    P Smith

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    wait another month ;)
     
  8. Mar 2, 2019 #188 of 233
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    "Soon"
     
  9. Mar 2, 2019 #189 of 233
    slice1900

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    I thought they changed it to second quarter?
     
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  10. Mar 2, 2019 #190 of 233
    JerryMeeker

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    I just paused for a refreshment break, and a series of promos for DTV PPV movies started displaying, each lasting ~15 seconds. Is’s on the 7th promo right now showing no sign of stopping, and I am returning to my recording.
     
  11. Mar 2, 2019 #191 of 233
    b4pjoe

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    They might have. I haven't been following it. I'd still be shocked to see it in the second quarter.
     
  12. Mar 2, 2019 #192 of 233
    GordonGekko

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    The articles that I linked to did not report any quarter, it was "sometime in 2019", there is also the possibility that if Directv is going to try this, it might be on Directv Now and not on the satellite.

    Update: I am referring to pause/video ads, you are referring to Directv IPTV, ignore my post.
     
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  13. Mar 2, 2019 #193 of 233
    slice1900

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    Since they originally said it would be before the end of the year (2018) and it has been slowly pushed back, I also wouldn't be surprised if it was pushed back further. There are so many things they need to get right if they want a smooth launch and any one of them could end up taking longer than planned and push back the release. They're better off waiting and getting it right than pushing it out before it isn't ready and getting a lot of bad press.
     
  14. Mar 2, 2019 #194 of 233
    b4pjoe

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    Oh I agree. But missing those dates gets bad press too.
     
  15. Mar 2, 2019 #195 of 233
    James Long

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    I expect to be underwhelmed when "DIRECTV over IP" rolls out. Partially because I never believed in the version that those reporting the initial comments on the potential service were claiming would be released and partially because more recent comments have scaled back the offering to something less robust than "everything on DTV satellite via IP".
     
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  16. Mar 3, 2019 #196 of 233
    slice1900

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    Since they've never made any official (i.e. customer facing, rather than investor facing) announcements about a date, or even the existence of this product, I doubt they'll see much bad press. You can't blame a company for missing a launch date they never announced for a product that they never advertised.
     
  17. Mar 3, 2019 #197 of 233
    slice1900

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    I suspect they've scaled it back because there are some contractual issues with offering "everything". Maybe they will be missing locals in some markets, or a few channels.

    The question is whether it will be close enough that 99% of potential customers wouldn't notice the difference, or care if they were told the difference. Obviously if it was missing something big like NFLST that would be a problem.
     
  18. Mar 3, 2019 #198 of 233
    dreadlk

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    Thanks for the info.
    As to the other comments about streaming adds, I would find that extremely annoying! Most of the time I pause a show so I can answer the phone or say something to my wife: I need silence and I don’t want to now have to mute the TV as well as pause DTV.
    I really hope they don’t go in this direction, after all I am paying for the service, it’s not like I am getting free TV.
     
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  19. Mar 3, 2019 #199 of 233
    James Long

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    Sadly ads are becoming an extension of TV.

    People have been complaining on this site (and others) for decades about having any commercials at all in channels that they pay for. The ability to skip/slip past commercials with the press of a button has helped, but they have still been an annoyance for decades. But we have been told that those commercials reduce the cost of each channel - and we have been asked to accept the commercials in order to keep down the cost of the "basic cable" channels. (And yet the cost of "basic cable" channels still goes up every year.)

    Some streaming services offer with commercials and without commercials options. The "with commercials" option has become "commercial viewing required" on most services. Programming content can be skipped but those commercials must be played. When there are technological reasons why the distributor cannot tell what part of a program is content and what part is commercial often nothing in the program can be skipped. The commercials have become "must see TV". If you don't see commercials, you don't see the content you are paying for. One can pay more for "without commercials" with some services - but even that is becoming a "less commercials" option instead of a "no commercials" options.

    And I expect to be told once again that the channels and packages we want to watch would be incredibly more expensive if we didn't have those commercials. It is a story we have been hearing for decades so it must be true. The only difference in this decade is that technology has caught up with the desire to force people to view ads. All the distributors have to do is turn it on. And when people complain hope that the other services also have strong negatives and they can keep customers by not being as bad as the other providers.

    Cable and satellite customer satisfaction has been low for decades. People suffering through poor cable/satellite customer service has been a meme longer than there have been memes. Last year the #1 rated company had a 67% satisfaction rating (which sounds high based on the general level of complaints about all cable/satellite companies). Making decisions that annoys customers is just part of the job - and unless some company breaks away, gives customers everything they want AND still manages to stay in business I expect "making the tough decisions that can annoy customers" will remain part of the industry.
     
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  20. Mar 3, 2019 #200 of 233
    WalkGood

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    I first got the beautiful landscape images after pausing a few minutes, started about 2 weeks ago. Never the time or weather. Two days ago, I got DirecTV Cinema Ch 1100 still pics ads. After a bunch of diff ads, it went to the nature images.

    Last week, my nature images had a "watermark injection" notification from my ISP (Optimum/Altice)!

    So the images are internet based (yes my DTV HR44-500 box is connected to interwebz via my WiFi ).

    I'll start a new thread about the injected notifications into the DTV nature screensaver pics.
     

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