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HR44 is dying, go to HR54 or HS17?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by riprecked, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. Jul 8, 2018 #1 of 34
    riprecked

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    My HR44 is turning into a pixelated mess and appears to be dying a slow death. I already have two 4K TVs so the HR54 or HS17 seem to be the solutions available. My entire system will be wired and I currently have two H25 boxes. I’m out of contract.

    While I’m not thrilled with the HS17 I’m not sure I have a better choice since my DVR is located by my largest 4K TV and apparently the HR54 cannot output 4K (really?) and a spec-me box is needed for that.

    Does the HS17 sound like the best solution. How do I get D* to help me with the cost of switching? I’ve been a customer a long time and everything I have is from Solid Signal. I have considered buying my own hardware again but the install sounds a little tougher.

    Thanks
     
  2. Jul 9, 2018 #2 of 34
    P Smith

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    I would try first read a few threads where members asked same question and got a ton of useful info.
    Search for "hr54 or hs17" keyphrase
    here is of many Should I upgrade to the Genie 2?
     
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  3. Jul 9, 2018 #3 of 34
    inkahauts

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    How many total tvs do you have?

    I’d probably call and ask for a genie 2 hs17 and three 4K minis. (it sounds like you have 3 tvs)
     
  4. Jul 9, 2018 #4 of 34
    MysteryMan

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    The HR54 can be connected to a TV. It will work with receivers, DVRs and clients. It needs a 4K client (RVU HDTV or C61K-700) for 4K service and can only work with one 4K client at once. The HS17 is a headless server and cannot be connected to a TV. It only works with clients. The HS17 can work with two 4K clients at once. Seeing how you are out of contract AT&T/DIRECTV will most likely upgrade you for free providing your account is in good standing. Upgrading will trigger another contract commitment.
     
  5. Jul 9, 2018 #5 of 34
    carl6

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    With two 4K televisions, the Genie 2 is your preferred option. It can support two simultaneous 4K streams whereas the HR54 can only do one.
     
  6. Jul 9, 2018 #6 of 34
    WestDC

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    How long since you looked at any RG6 Connectors that live outside? That could be part of the cause of your pixelated problem - or even a damaged LNB - SINCE you mentioned your out of contract - I would suggest

    1. If your able to do things you self
    2. Check you outside connections first for any damage
    3. call for service if you can't reach your dish and change the LNB to a new one that supports 21 swim channels
    4. then you can remove and Swim8 or Swim16 external hardware that may be connected (if you have any)
    DO that will NOT cause a contract extension.
    5. make sure all RG6 connections are tight at each receiver input as well.

    Try easy stuff first before jumping on UPGRADE band wagon - D* still has only 3 4K Channels that run in a loop (remember) 3D - so 4k can wait.
     
  7. Jul 9, 2018 #7 of 34
    Laxguy

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    I'd call and see if you can get the HS17 for free or little. Let them install it, along with three C61K's. They'll change out the LNB, do the whole thing, including getting the power inserter on the Genie on the right path.

    The picture on most 4K broadcasts is stunning, esp with HDR.

    Good luck, and enjoy!
     
  8. Jul 9, 2018 #8 of 34
    slice1900

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    I would verify that the pixelation issues are due to the HR44 and not the wiring or LNB before swapping equipment unless you have other reasons why you want to do so. Next time you see the HR44 pixelate, check one of the H25s and see if it has the same issue. You might also want to swap the HR44's location with one of the H25's temporarily if that's feasible to insure it isn't wiring related.

    If you want to upgrade / take on a new commitment then this is less important, but whether you upgrade to HR54 or HS17 if the issue is wiring or LNB related the new hardware won't fix it and you'll need to have someone back. They won't undo your upgrade / commitment if it turns out the HR44 was not the issue.
     
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  9. FarNorth

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    FWIW, I have a pretty nice Sony 940D that upconverts really well. I have run A/B testing with 4K vs 1080 on Roku and Amazon Fire HD and I cannot tell the difference. 'Bosch' and 'The Grand Tour' look exactly the same. Maybe HDR would have an edge, haven't seen much programming.
     
  10. Rich

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    I agree. I don't even look for 4K content anymore. Damn near everything looks good on the 4K sets. I have done the side by side tests too and see little, if any, difference.

    Rich
     
  11. Rob Dawn

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    That's weird, because the World Cup games in 4K/HDR look WAYYY better than they do in 720p on my Vizio P65.
     
  12. slice1900

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    720 to 2160 is a bigger step than from 1080, plus Directv is using 30+ Mbps for their 4K while most of their HD channels are about 6 Mbps (and using a worse codec) so basically you're getting almost 10x the bit rate with the 4K version.

    If there was a 720p channel encoded with 30 Mbps of HEVC, or even MPEG4, it would look a LOT better than the 720p World Cup games you watched...
     
  13. Laxguy

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    Some of the HD broadcasts of the World Cup were utter crap. Some were fine. Thanks, Fox. But I had the 4K going, and it was good, though some games looked better than the others (also WC).
     
  14. Rich

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    Weird? Just what I see. Does that Vizio have better PQ than a similar Vizio 1080p set? Of course it does (just a guess, I have never had a Vizio). That was my point. I have no interest in soccer, just in sports I played. I wasn't gonna dive into D*'s 4K mess just to watch a few soccer games. Put the Yankees and Mets in 4K, put the NFL games in 4K, put boxing matches in 4K and I might...might take a chance on D* 4K. Aside from that I have absolutely no interest in D* 4K content...what there is of it. If PS Vue or D* NOW would give me WPIX in NYC (about 20 Yankee games a year) I'd dump D* in January.

    Rich
     
  15. Grafixguy

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    4K MESS? How can you make that assessment while at the same time saying you don't have it?

    I disagree vehemently with it. The 4K sports are stunning. There's no extra charge for it so I fail to see where the complaints are coming from.
     
  16. Rich

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    By reading lots of posts about the "mess". Same reason I don't want a 17. How do the MLB games and NFL games look in 4K?

    Rich
     
  17. Rich

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    By the way, in no way did I mean the 4K broadcasts were a "mess". I meant the equipment. You seem to have centered on the PQ, did not mean that.

    Rich
     
  18. Laxguy

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    Dunno, Rich. You are opining about something you state you don't have.
     
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  19. Grafixguy

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    4K sports are all stunning. As far as the "mess," if you're waiting for perfect you're going to grow old and die before it arrives.

    NFL is the only league without any 4K coverage.
     
  20. Rich

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    You don't think reading posts is a valid way of forming an opinion? I never had a 34 but I'm pretty sure it's junk. But, by all means, let's have some happy owners of 17s chip in here...

    Rich
     

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