HR54-500 Running Out Of Space

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by utbronco, Apr 8, 2019.

  1. studechip

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    You have a 6TB internal hard drive in your Genie and you use an external 6TB? What's the point unless you are archiving A LOT of programming? I've never been one to do that since a hard drive can fail at a moments notice.
     
  2. Athlon646464

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    If the OP doesn't want to employ codespy's methodology, he and/or his family may still want to watch a lot of what they have on his internal drive (there's a lot there). Eventually he won't have to switch back and forth.
     
  3. JerryMeeker

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    Can you describe what you mean by two button presses? Doesn’t the switch require a cable to the external drive to be disconnected and the DVR to be rebooted, which takes a bit of time?
     
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  4. slice1900

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    One button press to turn off[on] the external drive, a second to reset the DVR?
     
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  5. Rich

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    Bit of a PITA that I've always avoided.

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  6. Rich

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    No, the eSATA to SATA cable does not have to be disconnected. All you have to do is either shut off the dock by the switch on the back or pull its cord and then reboot the HR.

    He's right.

    A warning about the TT docks: When I started using them years ago I had a couple fail because I used the switch on the back of the docks and the switches failed. Since that happened I always pull the power cord. Tried to jump out those switches but it's easier to buy a new dock.


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  7. Rich

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    Far as I know, the HR has to be rebooted. Don't recall any other way to do it.

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  8. utbronco

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    All great comments!! I'm still trying to get a recommendation for an e-sata plug and play external hard drive. I want to go this way with a 4tb drive but don't know which to look for. Thanks
     
  9. Rich

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    I use these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001A4HAFS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    I just bought another one on Amazon. Just checked, none available from that seller at this time.

    Here's a link to an HDD that is built for DVRs: https://www.amazon.com/Purple-4TB-S...tronics&sprefix=wd+sur,electronics,145&sr=1-3

    Take a look at the thumbnail pictures on the Amazon offering for the external HDD device. The picture of the dock clearly shows the eSATA port. In order for any external device to work on an HR the external device MUST have the eSATA port. You can buy many external devices that do not have this port. If you can't find Thermaltake docks search for a device that clearly has an eSATA port.

    Rich
     
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  10. Rich

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    Once you get the HDD and device, here's how to hook them up:
    (1) On your internal HDD record a program you would never record (I use golf matches).
    (2) Make sure the HR is unplugged and the dock (or whatever device) is not plugged in.
    (3) You will get an eSATA to SATA cord (no polarity) in the box the dock comes in. Plug one end into the eSATA port on the dock and then plug in the other end into the SATA port on the back of the HR.
    (4) Insert the HDD into the dock.
    (5) Plug in the external device and let the HDD spin up. You should see blinking lights on the dock. Takes less than a minute.
    (6) Plug in the HR. It will boot up and when it's done check the Playlist. If you see the program you would never record the new HDD was not recognized. Go thru the whole setup again and again until you see a blank Playlist. Once you see the blank Playlist you are ready to start using the external HDD. Don't get upset if you have to do the setup several times. And make sure the HDD is properly seated.

    Rich
     
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  11. utbronco

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    Thanks for the help!!
     
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  12. codespy

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    Rich is spot on with the dock, as it is the same model I use. Esata is the key. The purple drive is also available in the 6TB option, the largest the Genie will accept, but its about $178 as of the timing of this post. I'm using the old WD Blue 6TB drives for a couple years now and they are still working fine. But time will tell......
     
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  13. codespy

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    We archive a lot from the past, and we should probably get counseling at some point. We still have some old HR10-250's that have programming from the mid-2000's that don't repeat anymore that we can still watch. The recorded programs still play nicely, and in 5.1 DD sound and in HD!

    So yes, our family has issues compared to others here.......
     
  14. codespy

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    Slice nailed it, but it requires a reboot. A reboot no different than a quick power outage, which I get a lot of around here........
     
  15. Rich

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    I think the Genies will take a 10TB drive. Never tried one, seem to remember reading posts about some folks using them.

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  16. slice1900

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    SATA ran into a size limit at 2 TB which required some changes to newer drives/controllers. Since you can use drives larger than 2 TB on a Genie there is likely no practical size limit so you could use a 16 TB drive (the largest currently available AFAIK) if you want (though I'd beware of any that do shingled writes which some of the really big ones designed for archiving do...that would be fine for video since that's written in fairly large blocks but Directv DVRs store other stuff and shingled drives aren't efficient or designed for writing/rewriting a bunch of small files)
     
  17. inkahauts

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    Two things...

    It’s possible that one program didn’t fee up a ton of space and the thing just didn’t update the space free as fast as you where deleting stuff or it’s possible that you had one rogue recording that was many hours long. Did you see if that half hour show was actually only half an hour before you deleted it?

    The genies just don’t slow down just because their hard drive is full, I know Rich will disagree but it just doesn’t happen. HR2x can but the genies, unless you have a 8 tb drive that’s full... not a concern.

    With that said yeah, you record that much I’d get a bigger drive too!!!
     
  18. Rich

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    Yup, only happened once, but it sure did happen. Should I bore everyone with the details?

    Rich
     
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  19. utbronco

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    Thanks again Rich,

    I'm still looking and looking for a docking station. The link you gave for the docking station is still not available. I've looked online and e-bay and have found some sata types but I don't know if they would work with the HDD you provided.

    Could I impose on you to take a look on e-bay and let me know if you find a docking station that I could buy with confidence? I would really like to get this taken care of but I don't want to make a costly mistake.

    Thank You,
    Dave
     
  20. jimmie57

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    How about this one ?
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    Or this one ?
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    Or this one ?
    https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com...2958&s=pc&sprefix=esata,undefined,173&sr=1-25
     

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