HR54 and AM21

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by hydrant100, Dec 12, 2016.

  1. hydrant100

    hydrant100 New Member

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    Have new HR54 along with Genie for my 4K TV. Installer told me I could NOT connect my old AM21 to the HR54 and said he was certain of that. However, I've been reading posts in various forums where folks have done just that. So if I CAN connect, my questions: will I be able to record the OTA programs? I assume so but need to be sure. Second, my OTA antenna has coax output cable though HR54 has USB input. Assuming there is such a thing as a "coax to usb connector, will it work when connected to the HR54's USB input? Where can I find such a connector? Thank you for any assistance.
     
  2. trh

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    Your AM21 will work with the 54 and you'll be able to record those shows. Your OTA coax goes into the AM21 and then USB from the 21 to the 54.
     
  3. peds48

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    You still need to use the AM21 with the HR54. None of the DIRECTV current receivers have OTA built in.


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  4. texasbrit

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    The AM21 works with the HR54 just like it did with the other DVRs. The only difference is that you need to power the AM21 separately (it does not take its power thru the Hr54). Just get a power cable for the AM21 (it's one of the two or three standard power cables you can get at an electronics store)
     
  5. azarby

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    Should work fine, Just follow instructions in previous posts. I've been using mine for years
     
  6. NR4P

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    AM21 with any Genie will work well for RECORDING OTA.
    But watching live TV on a -1 channel will yield some audio issues and video frames being lost after about 27 mins.

    Also reports of loss of audio/video on the 1/2 or 1 hour tv show breaks.

    The workaround is record at least 1 second, watch the recording.
    Been that way on all Genies for almost 2 years.
     
  7. texasbrit

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    Not for everyone, it's a problem I have never seen..
     
  8. RoyGBiv

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    I have no issues with the AM21 connected to an HR22, 23, or 24. With my HR44 the problem is very specific to the OTA station. CBS from both Providence and Boston give me issues only when watching sports with stuttering of the video after watching just a few minutes. The "fix" is to hit the 6 sec rewind and just watch from that point. For some reason watching from the HDD solves the problem. FOX from Boston and Providence, and NBC only from Boston will lose the audio and video when the program changes on the half hour or hour. There will be a blank screen, but what is interesting is 1) if you turn on closed captioning, closed captions continue to follow the programming you can't see or hear, and 2) if you hit the record button, you can rewind and watch what you weren't able to see. Moving to another channel and back to the one without video and the program is visible/heard normally. It's been this way since I got my 44 and through numerous software updates.

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  9. dpeters11

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    One thing to keep in mind, if you didn't use it on a Genie before, you will be limited to two simultaneous OTA recordings at once, any other recording at that time will have to be satellite.
     
  10. mhdena

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    Is the HR54 the latest Genie and do I need to specify I want/am getting the OTA module that goes with it prior to install? Install scheduled for Jan 6, Have a Dish Hopper with OTA now.
     
  11. carl6

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    The HR54 is the latest, however unless you specifically ask for 4K (and a C61 client), you could get any Genie - the HR34, 44 or 54. They are all considered the same class of equipment (other than 4K).

    When the installer shows up, don't accept an HR34. If you are non-4K, an HR44 is fine.

    As to the AM21, while it will work with an HR44 or HR54, I don't think they are officially available any longer. You might have to go online to find one.
     
  12. gqmagtutgic

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    I'm this poster in #10, I forgot my other login when I setup that one.

    Will the external HDs I have used with the Dish DVRs and have shows on work with DirecTV ?
     
  13. peds48

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    HR34s are no longer being installed.


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  14. peds48

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    You will need to source the AM21 yourself as is no longer carried by DIRECTV, expect to pay premium price for it since demand is high. And don't expect the tech to install either the OTA antenna (if needed) or the AM21. They are no longer supported BY DIRECTV.


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  15. HoTat2

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    Though I'm still nevertheless surprised by how many techs. on service vists here still regularly ask about the AM21 (have them on 4 of the 5 HR24s here).

    "What is that?"



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  16. mhdena

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    I get a good signal with rabbit ears in Pasadena from Mt Wilson.
     
  17. mhdena

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    Does the Genie have a good picture in picture? I use the Dish Hopper PIP all the time.
     
  18. HoTat2

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    PQ on all DIRECTV receivers are the same.

    HD = very good and somewhat better than dish's on 1080i channels as dish down-converts theirs to 1440 x 1080i to save bandwidth. Whereas DIRECTV's is at the full 1920 x 1080 resolution.

    720p is the same PQ for both.

    SD = Not so good for DIRECTV and inferior to dish a number of viewers have said.

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  19. peds48

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    I think the poster was asking about PIP not PQ.

    To the poster, not sure what is consider a good PIP implementation, but DIRECTV's PIP is just like old school PIP, main picture in background with PIP box on one of the corners. You also get a side by side mode which places the both PIP windows inside the 16:9 frame


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  20. slice1900

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    Not necessarily. Just because Dish doesn't downscale their 720p content doesn't mean they are using the same bit rate for those channels as Directv. If the bit rate is lower (as I assume it is considering how many HD channels Dish places in a transponder) the 720p quality will be lower as well. Whether that difference is noticeable, and matters, depends on the viewer.
     

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