HS17-100

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by slice1900, Nov 30, 2016.

  1. slice1900

    slice1900 Well-Known Member

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    Stuff like that is in FCC filings that any device that broadcats on public airwaves (like wifi, in this case) must file with the government.
     
  2. carl6

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

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    Actually a variety of ways. When a new product that does anything with RF is developed, it has to be submitted to the FCC for type acceptance/approval, and you can normally access the information submitted to the FCC, which includes a lot of engineering data, sometimes spec sheets and other technical information. That is one very common way people learn this stuff (about a particular product).

    Sometimes, information is provided by DirecTV engineering to alpha or beta testers that can be shared (and sometimes that can't be shared). That is an infrequent way people learn this stuff.

    Sometimes, when you are talking about common technologies such as 802.11 variations, it is standard industry knowledge. If DirecTV releases a product that conforms to 802.11 whatever, then the technical information behind that will conform to a standard.

    Sometimes people just learn if from reading forums like this.

    Add it all together, and you've got a pretty powerful bulk of technological information available.
     
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  3. 1953

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    I have learned so much great information from this and other AV forums. Thank you.
     
  4. specialkd24

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    I usually watch WatchESPN on my computer (second screen), but sometimes if it is a really big game of my favorite team I'll use AppleTV (although I have the older version) or Roku.

    I was just looking forward to having it on DirecTV, meaning not having to get up to turn the AppleTV on and the input on my TV (and flip back if I'm going to watch another game not on WatchESPN).

    I read one review that said it was coming eventually. Not sure if that was a guess or the person had actual knowledge.
     
  5. P Smith

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    you are going offtopic ... please open a new thread about AppleTV, ESPN,etc
     
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  6. inkahauts

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    Time energy reading and playing with it.

    You kind of learn things as you go and build up more info on how it all works over time. I’ve learned a ton from this website alone about the technical capabilities and how things work for satelites years ago, and then it’s just a matter of learning what’s new and how things are evolving.
     
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  7. Sep 2, 2017 #1847 of 2175
    Brad00111

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    I'm sure these are answered somewhere in the 1800 posts here (maybe we can close this thread and start a new one?) but I had a few questions:

    1) With 7 total tuners I'm guessing if you are watching on one or more TVs this takes away a tuner so 2 TVs on would leave 5 available for recording correct? If so do you get a conflict message if the unit needs another tuner to record a scheduled show?

    2) if you are going completely wired do the minis need an Ethernet connection at each of them in addition to the coax or if the HS17 has an Ethernet connection is that all that's required?

    3) what is the most straightforward way to use an external drive for storage? Do you find the external drives more reliable than the one in the equipment?

    4) you are limited to 100 series recordings correct?

    Thanks for the help!
     
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  9. Sep 2, 2017 #1849 of 2175
    Brad00111

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    Thank you for the quick answers!
     
  10. Sep 2, 2017 #1850 of 2175
    carl6

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    Wired involves coax run to the client location, not ethernet.
    Use eSata for external drive. HS17 hasn't been around long enough to see hard drive failures, so can't tell you if internal or external would be more reliable.
    Yes, 100 series links.
     
  11. Sep 2, 2017 #1851 of 2175
    inkahauts

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    One note on the tuners... minis do not use any tuners when they are watching a recording... so only an issue if you are watching live tv. And if you are like me and record everything you watch then there are no issues.
     
  12. Sep 3, 2017 #1852 of 2175
    JimAtTheRez

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    ^^^This for me may be the deal breaker. I had my HS17 installed Friday and quite honestly did not know what I was getting. Shame on me. I should have read this forum. Losing AM21, Available tuners from 15 to 7, recording space down to 2TB, down to 100 series links from 600, and the fact that the RC73 remotes won't do as many functions as the RC66 series all lead me to probably switch back to my old format of a Genie and 5 HD DVR's. Again, shame on me as a customer for assuming what I was told by a CSR was what I understood. Again, read this forum before committing.
     
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  13. Sep 3, 2017 #1853 of 2175
    inkahauts

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    If you actually need all that ability then yeah the hs17 just isn’t a solution. I keep hopping they will get rid of the series link limit. That would really fix the majority of the issues though since cable shows are on multiple times a week.
     
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  14. Sep 4, 2017 #1854 of 2175
    Brad00111

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    Agreed. Probably the biggest factor for me not to switch. I have an HR-44 and 2 HR-24s with 2 4K TVs. I just picked up an Onkyo NR656 to get ready for 4K in anticipation of more options in the coming months/years.

    I'm not sure we ever have more than 7 shows recording at once, but we often do have 4 or 5, so the tuner drop shouldn't be too bad, but hell we have well over 100 series links when you add them all up, why they limit these seems silly, but until that gets fixed guess I'm stuck where I'm at.
     
  15. Sep 5, 2017 #1855 of 2175
    compnurd

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    Well now my contract is up and I can get the HS-17 from solid signal now. Decisions decisions. Any more user feedback?
     
  16. Sep 5, 2017 #1856 of 2175
    wilbur_the_goose

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    FWIW - my wife LOVES the HS-17. I call her the "program director" - she does most of the recording set-ups, and loves the fact that all upcoming recordings are listed in one place. I can't tell you how often we used to find the exact same show recorded 3 times - one on each DVR.

    I also love the ability to copy one client's setting to another client. Makes for favorites list coordination easy. Quick tune too. And the remote response is MUCH better with the client/server setup.

    And, I swear the PQ is better. I've been with D* for 21 years, and I'm not subject to hype or placebo effect on this sort of thing. If PQ was the same/worse, I'd have said so. PS - the program director wife agrees with me.
     
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  17. Sep 5, 2017 #1857 of 2175
    CraigerM

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    Can you save your free upgrade for later? I wonder about waiting until more
    Could be that the HS-17 has a better video processor in it than the HR-54?
     
  18. Sep 5, 2017 #1858 of 2175
    Delroy E Walleye

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    I would think that video processing and PQ would be up to the client ( and not the "headless" HS17 itself).

    For what it's worth, I have an old HR21 that puts out a noticeably better picture than the HR44. Not a stretch for me to believe there could be quality differences between the outputs of different clients.
     
  19. Sep 6, 2017 #1859 of 2175
    slice1900

    slice1900 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah the HS17 would have nothing to do with picture quality, it is just passing the data received from the satellite on to the client, which is converting to what gets spit out the HDMI port to your TV. Clients were made more recently than HR2x DVRs, so maybe they're a little better at slightly massaging the picture during that process to make it look better (smoothing compression artifacts, etc.)

    Alternatively, it could be that around the same time you got the HS17 Directv upgraded the PQ of some of the channels you regularly watch, via encoder upgrades or the moving around of channels between transponders they're always doing giving them more bandwidth.
     
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  20. Sep 6, 2017 #1860 of 2175
    CraigerM

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    I noticed an improvement with PQ letting my Sony 4k TV's processor do the work instead of the HR-44's by setting native to on.
     
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