HS17 roll-out?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by kram, Jun 14, 2017.

  1. Aug 7, 2017 #81 of 215
    Stevies3

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    SS is out of stock, BO a few days. You can self install but you will need to call to activate as with any STB or RVU
     
  2. Aug 7, 2017 #82 of 215
    slice1900

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    Sure, but those people have been able to get upgrades to Genie for a long time, and there's not really anything so amazing with the HS17 that would make them think "boy I never wanted that HR44 but this HS17 is so much better!" Stuff like extra tuners, extra hard drive capacity and so forth matters for power users who frequent this site, but for most typical customers there's no real difference.
     
  3. Aug 7, 2017 #83 of 215
    inkahauts

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    If they are not power users then I definitely wouldn’t even consider for anyone a hr44 or hr54 if they where moving to a genie platform today. I’d only consider the hs17. All the little things add up...

    I’d only consider the regular genies for major power users that truly need more than 7 tvs at one time and more than 100 series links.
     
  4. Aug 7, 2017 #84 of 215
    Wolfmanjohn

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    "Man, I never really have been happy with my HR44 and I think this HS17 will be so much better!" :D My son and his father-in-law quit Directv in large part because of the HR44.
     
  5. Aug 8, 2017 #85 of 215
    gio12

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    Or ANYONE who does not want all their eggs(recordings) in one basket. #1 issues with HR17, it fails and not more recordings or TV. Wanting your recordings or ability to watch TV is NOT a major power user.
     
  6. Aug 8, 2017 #86 of 215
    inkahauts

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    And yet only two people on this forum have I ever seen say they record everything on multiple devices. I just don’t by this argument as being important at all for almost everyone. Almost everyone has all their eggs in one basket as it is already... haveing recordings split to multiple DVRs doesn’t mean not having all eggs in one basket, because if you lose the one DVR, you lose all that units recordings.
     
  7. Aug 8, 2017 #87 of 215
    hancox

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    You missed the big "or" in his statement - live TV goes away too, in the event of a failure. Not to mention recordings in future, which can presently be moved between DVRs without too much trouble, for most.

    Losing TV service altogether in the event of a device failure is a major drawback to the HS17/client model.
     
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  8. Aug 8, 2017 #88 of 215
    James Long

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    DIRECT equipment must be of poor quality if customers are that concerned that it will fail. :)
     
  9. Aug 8, 2017 #89 of 215
    hancox

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    Well, when it's your only "real" box, failure is high-impact. You need to worry about it 2,3,4,x times less, with number of redundant boxes.
     
  10. Aug 8, 2017 #90 of 215
    Wolfmanjohn

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    Redundancy is okay for me on a one time basis, such as pulling a siamese cable when I only need a single, but if I have to practice redundancy on a repetitive or daily basis, such as backup recording of the same event on multiple boxes, it indicates a need to change that situation.
     
  11. Aug 8, 2017 #91 of 215
    slice1900

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    The discussion wasn't about upgrading from non-Genie to HR44 or HS17, but from HR44/HR54 to HS17. Obviously if you are going to 'burn' your upgrade that only comes along every couple years, you want to get the newest hardware possible.
     
  12. Aug 8, 2017 #92 of 215
    slice1900

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    The HS17 may not be an improvement in their eyes, depending on what specifically about the HR44 it was that made them quit.
     
  13. Aug 8, 2017 #93 of 215
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    I worried about having only the HS17 for a few seconds and then decided in case of a failure, for the two days it take to get a replacement I'll just connect my iPad/iPhone to our TV with the HDMI adapter and used the DIRECTV app to stream the channels I get via internet or OTA for the locals.
     
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    gio12

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    I have seen more than "two" and this forum does not represent everyone. I have at least 3-4 DVRs fail from DIRECTV. I will stick with a dual solution and I don't DVR every show.
     
  15. Aug 8, 2017 #95 of 215
    gio12

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    BINGO!
     
  16. Aug 8, 2017 #96 of 215
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    First frankly, expect for Rich receivers don’t just die every other day. Doing anything because it might happen once every few years is a bit silly in this area imho. I haven’t had any DIRECTV receiver die in over 9 years, and eve then it was only once. Same for everyone I know with DIRECTV.heck half have never had even one failure.


    Second, what died? If it’s the hard drive, no you will still have live tv.

    If it’s the power supply, no you won’t lose recordings, just won’t have anything live for the day or two till you get a new power supply. Same with the dish.

    And you can setup further r cording fi the DVR has to be replaced as soon as the next one gets there, so you only lose stuff for a day or two.

    No different than if your power is out at home, or you aren’t at home to move recordings if a DVR did die...

    And I don’t think I know a single person who has DIRECTV that doesn’t also have either a streaming service or a DVD player so no you wouldn’t be without tv no matter what.

    Frankly, if you where to lose tv for a night or two, would the world really end? I don’t think it would.

    Worrying about a possible device failure that probably won’t ever happen just isn’t a reason to not buy a piece of equipment imho. Other wise everyone would have twice as many cars as they have today. And two homes. And so on....

    And how many people have just one tv and one DVR anyway? They don’t get a second DVR just in case generally.

    And if your power inserted dies you lose all your DIRECTV too. Most people don’t keep spare power supplies either.

    I could keep going but my point is simple, the hs17 does not increase the chances of you losing tv simply because of how’s its integrated vs say a person with a couple HR24s. Because they still only have one power supply so you are still only one device away from not having tv.
     
  17. Aug 8, 2017 #97 of 215
    inkahauts

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    Totally agree which is why this idea that a hs17 is bad because it’s a different type of setup doesn’t make any sense.
     
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  18. Aug 8, 2017 #98 of 215
    haggis444

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    I was thinking about this yesterday, as I am going to loose a bunch of stuff I have on my HR-54 that I will not have time to watch before my HR-17 replaces it (hopefully this week or next). Everything I care about on it I can stream--I might have to watch a few commercials though.

    Couldn't agree more.
     
  19. Aug 8, 2017 #99 of 215
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    I am moving next week and D* has given me this deal:

    YOUR EQUIPMENT SELECTIONS

    Qty Description
    1 DIRECTV® Genie 2™ $99.00
    1 DIRECTV® Slimline Dish $0.00
    2 DIRECTV® 4K Genie Mini $0.00
    1 Sales Order Credit -$99.00
    ADDITIONAL FEES

    Installation Fee $0.00
    Delivery & Handling Fee $0.00
    Tax $0.00
    ORDER TOTAL PAID** $0.00

    Can someone confirm from this order if the antenna is the right one as I remember talk about needing an antenna change for UHD. Also, if my house has RG6 in the wall, which I suspect it does, is there a recommended way to organize which box goes where? Does this serup get rid of the SLIM box?

    The wife said she wanted our 3rd UHD panel put in the new den so I need to ask them to add another C61K to the deal. That will give me three UHD Tv's.

    I had to sign up for two years in order to get the deal but since I've been with them since 1996 that was no problem.
     
  20. Aug 8, 2017 #100 of 215
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    Been away for a while.
    My HS 17 install is this Friday,in the Nashville area.
    Genie2 with 4 4K minis under my protection plan upgrade.
    Told them to be sure to include the reverse band lnb etc and did this all on chat with DTV.
    Confirmed with chat this morning since this is not showing under my orders on the website so we shall see what occurs and will report back.
     
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