[HULU PRICE HIKE] The streaming "free ride" continues to dwindle...

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  1. SledgeHammer

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    Ur confused buddy lmao...
     
  2. James Long

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    Moved to the more appropriate forum.
     
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  3. Mark Holtz

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    *shurg* My Hulu promotion ends on the 22nd. I just logged in and canceled the service. Netflix will get cancelled at the end of December.

    CBS All Access? Disney+? While there is some compelling content that I want to see, I really don't have the time at the moment. So, it's just Amazon Prime and Criterion Channel for me. My mother has her AT&T Now subscription for her Hallmark fix.
     
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  4. 1948GG

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    It appears most/all the program owners, in particular local channel providers, are at the forefront of the rate hikes. Locast, if one is in one of the markets served, appears to be one potential solution, the only problem is a lack of dvr service; there are a couple of stand-alone solutions but they are hampered by restricted hardware choices and additional user fees, although if one is lucky enough to live where ota reception is good, there are several good solutions.

    OTT I thought was supposed to bring the death of bloated 'packages' and ability to choose channels on a ala carte basis, but suppliers simply used relaxed buyout and merger rules to move the bloat to the corporate level, the most obvious being Disney Corp. Break out the social media companies? What about the media 'media' companies?

    Also, as is typical, the Hulu web site has not been updated to reflect the hikes.
     
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  5. wmb

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    I'm not so sure about this. Its more about how you get to the content. I found with DirecTV, I was more focusing on what was available through the linear delivery format of cable/satellite instead of the anything, anywhere, anytime availability of the streaming services. Streaming like Netflix and traditional Hulu favor binging a show. So, I didn't use the DirecTV on-demand feature. Sometimes, we'd watch something from the DVR.

    The contrast for streaming is that everything is available now. Overchoice is a major problem here. At least with linear TV, I can rapidly decide which crap show I don't want to watch. On Netflix, I scroll past a bunch of shows that I am not interested in, slightly interested in that I am not sure I want to start now, or things I'd like to binge next week. Its hard to find something for now.

    Historically, I would search linear channels for the "least objectionable option" available. Some nights, its "must see TV" where I watch a couple of sitcoms. That largely leaves me the 10 PM block where every channel has police procedurals (which all suck - no, that instrument doesn't do that!, or they are just crap mysteries where you figure it out 10 minutes into the show and see right through the misdirect that's put in so that the show lasts 45 minutes and can have 15 minutes of commercials) that I put on Bojack Horseman, Disenchantment, After Life, Catch 22, or Star Trek Discovery.

    Of course, the use case for live streaming is sports. If you watch sports, you need linear TV, so a cable/satellite or a streaming replacement is required.

    So, for me, its not about availability of content, its about how that content is made available.
     
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  6. billsharpe

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    I have three primary streaming services:
    Netflix, which is essentially free with my TMobile phone plan.
    Amazon Prime, which is included with my Amazon yearly subscription. I would continue the subscription even if Amazon dropped the Prime service.
    Acorn, which is $5 per month.
    I would consider Disney+ with Hulu if I ever decide to cut my FiOS cord.
     
  7. Rich

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    You are absolutely correct...if you have the need to replicate D*. If you don't have that need it's a lot less expensive to stream at this moment and that's not gonna change drastically.

    Rich
     
  8. Rich

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    There you go, that's what I like to see.

    Rich
     
  9. evotz

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    Well the point was, if content choice is your main concern, then DirecTV (or maybe Dish) is still a better choice. Say you have to have some obscure choice of content - ESPNU, Disney, Science Channel, and INSP (these are just examples) - finding that content in a single streaming provider is a little difficult. Sling may offer it all in an expensive package+package+addon+addon system - but you don't get locals either.

    If content like this is important to you - and there's nothing wrong if it is - then yes, satellite and traditional cable may be the more effective solution for you.

    BUT... if you can live without certain content - and again, I'm not judging if you can't - then right now it would appear that savings can be had with live streaming packages.

    To each their own. For some, having accessing to more content is important. For others, saving money is more important.
     
  10. Rich

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    Give it some time, it gets very annoying after awhile. Mocking those who do things differently is wrong, I think.

    Rich
     
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  11. Rich

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    I don't think saving money is a prime concern here. I've always thought we, as a group, were more focused on things other than cost. Using D* certainly isn't inexpensive and I gotta think not many folks here are really worried about saving money on TV. TV, the way we use it, is a luxury. To constantly rant about how much something costs seems odd here. Just my opinion.

    Rich
     
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  12. lparsons21

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    Yep, replicating what you get on cable/sat with streaming is going to be nearly as expensive as cable/sat. Fortunately there are all sorts of things upcoming or possible, especially in the ad-supported streamers.
    It looks like NBC Universal will have a free with ads service soon which will bring in a number of channels. Hulu will continue to have next day airings of lots of broadcast and cable channel shows very cheap with ads. Pluto just keeps growing with more ‘channels’ and subscribers.
    But bandwidth caps from some ISPs and expected to actually end up on all of them at some future date, you have to be aware of the impact the 4K stuff has on bandwidth usage. I sub to Disney+ and AppleTV+, and others with 4K video. But the reality is that most of the stuff in 4K really isn’t enough better than upscaled 1080 to pay that bandwidth issue. In my setup I have my FireTV Cube set to 1080 and my AppleTV set to 4K outputs, that way I can control bandwidth usage a bit.


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  13. evotz

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    That could very well be true. I'm strongly considering moving to streaming - in some capacity - from DirecTV once my discounts run out. I mean, it's just not worth it for me. $110/mo for a single HD non-DVR (not that I really want a DVR) receiver. Add in the fact that I'm usually watching from the antenna most nights... I'm just not sure if it's worth it.

    But... having said that... I don't exactly fit into the crowd here... because like I said I have a single non-DVR HD receiver. I don't have the ultra setups that a lot of people here seem to have (not judging). So for me, saving money is definitely a factor - but that may not be the case for the majority here.
     
  14. phrelin

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    With the major corporate players reorganizing streaming, the costs to viewers will rise. But it will not just be the monthly charges.

    What I expect is to see a headline - maybe in two years, maybe sooner - where you get a "deal" with a streaming source by committing to a two year contract. The real cost advantage right now is to subscribe, watch shows you want to see for a month or two until you've seen the episodes you haven't seen, then cancel and move on to a different streaming "channel."

    But even at this time, that won't work with some broadcast shows streaming on Hulu, such as the "Chicago" three broadcast by NBC where they don't give you more than five back episodes. In the back of my suspicious mind I suspect NBC with its upcoming Peacock service might offer discount pricing with a year or more commitment.

    But we'll see.
     
  15. espaeth

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    Agreed.

    It seems odd to say this in a thread about a price increase, but the big winner in streaming is us as consumers. Choice is a good thing; for some DIRECTV is the best option, for others streaming works well.

    Email didn’t end the USPS. Things will rebalance.
     
  16. vfourmax

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    I would disagree as I think for many the amount of dollars they are shelling out monthly for TV content is a big factor in switching services. If price were not a factor then everyone would just have the top direct tv package with multiple dvr's and would not care about "what it cost". I was paying 145.00 a month for DTV (which included all of their add on fees) when I dropped it and now I am paying 65.00 a month, big difference on a monthly basis.

    I think that honestly the quality of the shows the broadcasters are putting out overall these days is pretty pitiful and the majority of the cable network channels including premiums like Starz or HBO are just swapping around the same old 5-50 year old movies that this week will be on HBO and next month will be on WGN or TNT anyway that other than live sports they really offer very little in the way of content anyway.
    Personally reality tv, DWTS, the Voice, Storage wars, hoarders or one of the Bachelorette or Survivor type of shows which dominates prime time content is not my thing and the networks love it because it is cheap to produce so I miss very little decent content anyway.

    I have found since dropping Dtv that I actually pay more attention to what I watch and watch a lot less of things I really could care less about seeing for the 20th time. OTA TV covers a lot of what I watch, I have PS Vue which will end Jan 30th. I think since I have Amazon prime (which I did not get for the tv service actually) that until Football seasons returns I may just not worry about any additional streaming full packages.

    But I do think that monthly price as compared to the perceived value of the content and service received is a big major factor in why people search for other options. Just my opinion although a little different.
     
  17. Mark Holtz

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    I think the main issue is figuring out which content you actually want and what the best package is. One resource is The Streamable where you plug in which channels, programs, and teams you like, and what the best streaming package is. Another resource is Just Watch.
     
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  18. Rich

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    Not sure why, but we don't have caps. Our provider is Optimum by Altice. The service has improved quite a bit since Altice bought it.

    Yeah, the 4K PQ certainly isn't an SD to HD thing. But the difference is notable, I think.

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  19. Rich

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    I know some of us are gonna feel as you do. What I wrote should be considered a general statement. What my family does is certainly different from what most folks here do.

    Rich
     
  20. Rich

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    That's how I feel. Big win. I can hardly believe how well streaming is working out for us. After juggling 12 VCRs and then upgrading to 12 HRs...I don't have to spend any time recording anything. Anything and damn near everything is just a click away. Good times!

    Rich
     
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