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I am just about FED UP with all these updates

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by bixfisher, Feb 28, 2009.

Have you considered going back to cable?

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  1. jwd45244

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    In order to get both OTA tuners to show up in the system test you have to tune to two differ OTA stations first. Then run the system test.
     
  2. bixfisher

    bixfisher AllStar

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    Hi Techgirl,
    You are pretty much right on in your description of my problem. In each case, both receivers mirrored the same OTA channel going into 771 mode. The first was on Feb 23 when our local 2 KTVI was out. Since we were recording 24 from the OTA channel, all I got was the playback screen that was black showing the 771 message. I did an Antenna Set Up and that got the channel back. It happened a 2nd time on both receivers OTA channel 2 KTVI on Tuesday 2/24 and we lost an American Idol recording. A couple of days later, this happened to our OTA channel 4 KMOV where it went into 771 on BOTH receivers. On Friday 3/5, it happened again to channel 4 KTVI OTA signal but this time on only one of my HR20-100's. The other one was fine. Once again the Antenna Set Up fixed it. I have since set the recordings to get their feeds off the satellite channels. You are also right on the frequency changes. 2 KTVI has NOT changed the transmission frequency however on Monday 2/16 4 KMOV did and we went through the "Antenna Set Up" at that time to relocate it. Channel 4 KMOV also announced that during the first two weekes after the frequency change on 2/17, they were broadcasting on a "reduced" wattage output but made it very clear that they are now back to full output. I can see the potential for some sort of signal loss due to the conversion changes but it has NOT been a problem with other TV's in my house that are running off the antenna through their built in digital tuners. My antenna is a Fringe Winegard YAGI antenna mounted at the top of a 36' tall Rohn tower with an in-line amplifier, and we are about 40 miles from the transmitters as the crow flies. Everything is wired with RG6 Quad using weather tight compression connectors. I also have a Zinwell 6x16 MS and have 12 ports connected however only have 7 of the ports in actual use. No end of line terminators are installed as per D* instructions.
     
  3. bixfisher

    bixfisher AllStar

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    Thanks! I did what you said and BOTH OTA tuners showed 94% each when I tuned to two different OTA channels.

    wbf
     
  4. SteveHas

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    never going back to cable
    EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  5. loudo

    loudo Well-Known Member

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    Before you think about going back to cable, go to AVS Forums and read the thread for your local cable company. You might find out that they are having a lot worse problems with their digital receivers than you are currently with your DirecTV receiver.
     
  6. bixfisher

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    I actually had good service with Charter Cable here in St. Louis. Their TV product was fine. HD delivery was good but somewhat limited but that was 3 years ago. We found their "moxy" box easy to use and didn't have the problems I have from time to time with these darn HR20's. There were 2 reasons I left them. First I wanted the NFL Sunday Ticket. Secondly, I got tired of the problems I was having with their broadband product. It kept dropping out and the technical help was frankly a pain in the butt.

    Otherwise, I had no complaints here about cable.
     
  7. Jhon69

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    Some DirecTV subscribers are forgetting that the DirecTV DVR+ HDDVR is DirecTV's first in house HDDVR and because it's DirecTV's first in house product there will be issues.The difference is that DirecTV along with Earl and DBSTALK created The Cutting Edge program to help deal with and solve these issues.This is not a cheap program to do but DirecTV is putting their money where their mouth is and it is a first from what my experiences have been before with other providers.Because of this program the development of the HDDVR+ will be advanced more quickly and the HDDVR+ will become the best in the industry.:)
     
  8. Jhon69

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    Exactly!.;)
     
  9. BlueEos

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    The only way I would go back to cable is if the trees around my place did an "instant" 50 year add on growth and blocked my signal. I've been "planted" in my present home for 21 years now, but if I were to move, the first thing I would check during house hunting is a "clear view to the SE".
     
  10. bixfisher

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    I am looking forward to the advancements. I don't want to change either but like I said in the topic title, I get fed up with updates and problems I encounter after those NR's hit my boxes. I participate in the CE program from time to time so I am well aware of how that works. It is a great program, no question. I just wish the NR's were clean before they were pushed out.

    wbf
     
  11. Tubaman-Z

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    Haven't considered it. I live in a rural area and cable doesn't come to my house. ;)

    I have however considered building a DVR and coupling that with OTA and PlayOn to get what I want for much less.
     
  12. Mike Bertelson

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    Weird isn't it? :scratchin

    IIRC it's always been that way.

    Mike
     
  13. bixfisher

    bixfisher AllStar

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    Seems that just about the time you think you know about the equpiment, something pops up that shows you how little you really know.

    wbf
     
  14. Mike Bertelson

    Mike Bertelson 6EQUJ5 WOW! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    I hear ya. ;)

    I learn something new every day. :D

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  15. Jhon69

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    I totally understand unfortunately there are issues that get by.I don't envy the software engineers because to take a product and build it from the ground up is quite the task.So they really have their work cut out for them.;)
     
  16. MIKE0616

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    If you think there is any other motive behind the "CE program" other than cost savings to D*, I think you are being rather naive. Every software company that I have ever been associated with has done in-house and controlled beta testing at their expense and if any had had an error rate that was anywhere near what I have seen coming out of D*, the software "engineers" (read that programmers) would have been looking for other employment long ago. While I am not saying the "CE program" is a total waste, it is apparent that it should not be the only quality control and testing that D* employs as there are glaring errors in all the NRs that we have had for the HR2x units over the past 18 months that even a cursory exam of the software should have caught. Also, D* is not doing their DVRs in house as a charitable cause either, they are making money by using them, you can wager on that.

    Are there better DVRs out there, with better software? How buggy are TiVo units? Dish? Motorola. etc.? In my experience, with the former two, they are not released with software that is anywhere near as bug-ridden as that that D* releases in their NRs, but the Motorola units that Comcrap had were rendered totally unfit for use by the software that was loaded on them (the local version was written by a TV-Guide subsidiary according to what I have been told.)
     
  17. paulman182

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    Who really cares why they do it, as long as it benefits everyone and we enjoy our participation?
     
  18. thestaton

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    heh... Cable. Over my dead body. The grass is not always greener on the other side.
     
  19. loudo

    loudo Well-Known Member

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    We usually find that out once you get there.
     
  20. vurbano

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    The software has been under development for years it seems. Additional Premium HD channels are no where in sight. FIOS is on my street and I will give it great consideration when the time comes.
     

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