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  1. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    Oh and another plus, I like how the Joeys look, and how they can create 4 custom favorites lists.

    Really good channel placement too, seem like it's better then I last remember.
    Best of all the MY channels actually works.

    Strange that Starz wasn't included with the free promo, when all the Encore, Starz on demand and Plex channels were.


    Damon
     
  2. lparsons21

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    It has been conjectured that the Starz contract is coming up soon and that is the reason it isn't one of the 3-month freebies. Whether that is true or not I couldn't tell you.
     
  3. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    When was the last time Starz was offered free? A few years ago DISH offered Starz free for a year to nearly every subscriber who did not already subscribe to Starz and Starz sued. Perhaps this is fallout from that lawsuit? (Do not offer Starz for free.)
     
  4. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    They don't offer Starz for free, But they give you The Movie pack for free that has Starz owned channels in it, and Starz On Demand lol.

    Damon
     
  5. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    Okay everything populated in the guide, Now I just have some other connection and install questions.


    First, only one Hopper is connected ethernet, and the Hopper with sling wireless is turned off.
    That is okay right, because they have a built in moca Bridge?

    Also many of your pictures show, the 2 Joey come off the duo node as a single lead, and split to the 2 Joeys.

    Well my tech ran only 2 wires, One to the Hopper with sling, and One to a 2 way splitter, one leg to the 2nd Hopper and 2nd leg to another 2 way splitter were it feeds both Joeys.

    Is that okay, ?or should I take the already there unused cable wire and run them joeys on their own line?

    Damon
     
  6. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    The installer should (and probably did) activate bridging on the Hopper connected to Ethernet to allow the service to be shared over moca to the Hopper without Ethernet. The wireless does not need to be active.

    The wiring split is fine. The first "splitter" on the 2nd Hopper feed is a Tap ... the second is a simple splitter. As long as all of your cable is RG-6 and below the maximum length LNB to Hopper and between Hopper and Joey the installer followed the specification. (And systems work outside of the specification as well.)
     
  7. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    Okay , yes the 2nd splitter is a Tap.
    Everything seems okay today.
    Just my one Joey seems a little slower than the others, Not sure why, but it reminds me of my C31 connected to my old HR34.

    Damon
     
  8. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    Got a couple questions,
    First is the 1000.4 bigger than the Eastern arc 1000.2?

    If so would that dish improve my signal strength.
    I just had my first rain fade episode, and it seems premature then what I remember satellite being.

    Also do you need internet in order for Joeys to function?

    On the DPP44, can the PI be located inside right next to the VIP receiver or does it have to be a certain distance from the switch.
    It will be like 65 feet away from the switch.

    Oh , I forgot, if I do install the 1000.4 dish, is that LNBF okay to use with my current setup?
     
  9. lparsons21

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    Internet is only needed for the apps and VOD.

    The 1000.4 is a little bigger but I don't think there is a performance gain by going to that one. If I'm remembering right it is only needed for one of the birds that isn't used in most areas. I don't think it would help with rain fade. For me most of the time that I get a little rain fade it is of short duration and usually takes a pretty thick cloud cover to cause it. It is rare that a clear sky rainstorm causes me to have rain fade.
     
  10. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    We had a strange shower the other day, so I'll see if the showers we get this week do anything.
    Because when we had Dish last time, Dish was fairly good against rain fade .

    What is a good signal level?
    Mine ranges from around 45-65 depending on TP.
     
  11. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    Okay another Question, how come I can't swap Hopper locations , I want to move the one with Sling into the master bedroom and share both Joeys off of that so the kids and bedroom can have Netflix access.
    And that will also allow all 3 tuners of the Hopper 2000 for livingroom only.

    Any help would be great.

    I tried the swap and the Minis didn't work anymore.

    I switched it back and they worked again.
    What an I missing?
     
  12. Zulu

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    Select Menu -> Settings -> Network -> Whole Home (or press the Menu button twice).

    This should list the Joeys and whether they're "Linked" (green X) or unlinked (red X).

    Select the unlinked Joeys and change the red X to a green X.
     
  13. damondlt

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    That did not work.
    I know how to link joeys, and it shouldn't matter anyway.
    The Joeys never moved.
    So how can you relink them when they are already linked.

    What I'm saying if I swap Hopper location the Joeys don't work period.

    There has to be a reason.
    The one Joey worked barely, and the other said 100% loss of signal.
    While they were linked GREEN.
     
  14. damondlt

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    I'm going to run another wire from Node to splitter to joeys, and get rid of that Tap.

    That way both hoppers have a direct connect to the Node instead of being split with a tap.
     
  15. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    Okay after doing some poking around, I've yet to see any wiring diagram that allows splitting /serving more than one Joey off of a Tap .


    So IMO that obviously not standard when installing the system.

    So I'm going to re wire the system , and try the Hopper swap again , and see if this time the Joeys will find the Hoppers.

    Is there any Installer that can help with this?

    I'm starting to think some of the issues are because of the tap.
    I don't think you are supposed to have a splitter from a Tap.
     
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    See No,
    Not on a Duo node.
    They show No splitter after a Tap.
    Look at 14 and down.
     
  18. Zulu

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    True, but if you check the specs for Taps & Splitters (page 3):
    • TAP - accesses the Home Video Network signal from the DPX coaxial cabling installed between a Hopper and a Node.
    • SPLITTERS - splits the HVN signal from a node/tap/isolator to support two/three/four MoCA-only devices (Joeys and/or Hopper Internet Connector).
    So per the spec, both a TAP & a SPLITTER can be used on "a Node" (Solo or Duo) and a SPLITTER can be used on a TAP as well as a node or isolator.
     
  19. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    But I can't figure out why I can't swap the 2 hoppers locations.

    I'm going to go ahead, and run a Single wire from the Node to the Joeys, and remove the Tap.

    But I still want to move the Hopper with sling to the bedroom, and hopper 2000 in the living room.

    Should I unplug the entire system joeys and all and then make the move?

    Is there a Dirt member, Thank can help with this, Maybe tech support.

    I need the Netflix apps in the 3 bedrooms, not the livingroom.
    I didn't know the Hopper with sling is the only one with the Netflix app.
     
  20. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    Okay another update,
    I wired everything according to the Diagrams posted including removing the Tap, plus switched the Hoppers and now everything is Great.

    Hopefully with tonight's updates, the other Joey will speed up.

    So I'm going to say installing a splitter after a Tap on a duo node, should not be done.

    Next month, I'm going to get the VIP 211.
    I'm thinking it's should be a snap.
     

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